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On 8/15/2011 6:34 PM, Darryl Thayer wrote:
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Hi wrenches,
I have been informed off list that my system is not a
supported configuration, that one <var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var>phase
can be paralelled, but the other two can not, one only on
each of the other legs. So unless Outback comes back with
more info, I was wrong. (mine still works, it was suggested
I am very lucky) </span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">I have used
the Apollo in different configurations, stacked in single
phase, but I have not tried 3 phase stacks. Maybe you could
conact Apollo. </span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Darryl </span></div>
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If you mean your system in Minneapolis, that is OK because they are
only paralleled on the input (grid) side.<br>
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You can have as many inverters as you want selling back to the grid
(even on 3 phase) as you did... Just can't parallel<br>
their outputs for off grid use when the power goes down. Each
inverter CAN drive its own AC branch load<br>
though.<br>
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boB<br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Darryl
Thayer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com"><daryl_solar@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b> Julie
Haugh <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jfh@greenhousepc.com"><jfh@greenhousepc.com></a><br>
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Monday, August 15, 2011 10:43 AM<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[RE-wrenches] Large, off grid<br>
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<div><span>Another method is to use the 120 volt VFX
3648, with one master and 14 slaves. (15 total, 5 in
paralled on each leg) Check this with Outback as
the 3 phase is different now than it was back in
2003. The three phase was the master generated a
square wave and each slave would use this to lag
either 120 or 240 degrees. For standalone not grid
tie. I did a multi inverter on standalone 3
phase. </span></div>
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<div><span>Also a good source for this might be Julie
Haugh <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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She has done a lot of work with Outbacks </span></div>
<div><span>Darryl</span></div>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Large, off grid<br>
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Hi Daryl,<br>
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You might look at the new Outback 8kw 120/240v<br>
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I know that you can connect up to 10 in parallel, i
don't know if you can do it 3 phase however.<br>
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jay <br>
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peltz power<br>
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On Aug 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, <a
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> Hello wrenches,<br>
> We have an opportunity to install a very large
(60 kw) off grid system<br>
> in Mexico. It is currently three phase. I do
have the option of<br>
> changing out the air conditioners (36 of them)
to 120 single phase, but<br>
> it is an added layer of complexity/cost that it
would be nice to avoid.<br>
> The largest off grid system I've done is 21 kw
so far, and it was<br>
> single phase and fairly straightforward.<br>
> Does anyone know of a three phase, off grid
inverter than can be<br>
> paralleled for 500 (possibly 450) amps oputput.
I am currently dealing<br>
> with three 120 volt lines (2/0) and a neutral,
running to a transformer<br>
> to "clean up" the power from the gennie a bit.
The client is determined<br>
> to do this as he has spent about $500,000.00
USD in diesel over the<br>
> last 5 years.I would very much like to get that
transformer out of the<br>
> picture...<br>
> I am well versed in the complexities/pitfalls
of battery systems this<br>
> large. I'm planning on using the Surrette
YS-31series to minimize the<br>
> footprint, as well as use Water Miser caps and
install three separate<br>
> deionizing water systems. My issue is the
inverters. I have seen a<br>
> Korean inverter, Sunsine (<a
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href="http://www.dongeiecos.com/" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">http://www.dongeiecos.com/</a>)
that is capable<br>
> of this, but I am not sure I want my first
install of this inverter to<br>
> be 3000 miles away....<br>
> Anyone?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Daryl DeJoy<br>
> NABCEP Certified PV installer<br>
> Penobscot Solar Design<br>
> <br>
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