<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I'm pretty sure it was a local guy that sell really cheap "energy solutions" products. AIMS inverters and used charge controllers. This guy has a reputation around the area for bad work. From the digging I have been doing he has an electrician on staff that does the electrical portion of the work. I'm guessing He was sick that day.....</div><div><br></div><div>Jesse</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 8, 2011, at 5:57 PM, "William Dorsett" <<a href="mailto:wmdorsett@sbcglobal.net">wmdorsett@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jesse, you sure this wasn\u2019t a DIY or a crackpot neighbor?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bill Dorsett<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sunwrights<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Manhattan, KS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jesse Dahl<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Dangerous installs/installers..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wrenches,</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br><span class="apple-style-span"> The other day on my travels, I came across a very scary small stand-alone hunting shack install. All the wiring is cut extension cords and some UF, the cable from the charge controller to the batteries is an extension cord with the 14s paralleled. mice chewed wire, splices taped and laid on the ground, mis matched modules (least of the problems). not a disco or OCPD to be seen. </span><br><br><span class="apple-style-span">Also a 500W wind generator 100 yards from the battery bank, feed with #10s and then spliced to #12s (most of it just laying on the ground. </span><br><br><span class="apple-style-span">Now I think the owner should have some responsibility to stop work when the see things this awful, but what can/should we as an industry do about this? What do we say to people that install stuff like this? Take them to court?</span><br><br><span class="apple-style-span">A small 2500w with surge of 5000w inverter was used here with 6 paralleled 12V deep cycle batteries. Powering a few lights and a vacuum at first, a well pump was added later. I could see the lights and vacuum, but a pump? How do you go about wiring the output of an inverter like this? From a receptacle on the inverter to what? This guy cut an extension cord off and splice it to some NM and ran it inside to the loads. No breaker, I just can't get over the fact this guy sleeps at night...</span><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">You should see the photos of this mess...</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br><br><span class="apple-style-span">Thank you for your thoughts,</span><br><br><br><br><span class="apple-style-span">Jesse</span><br></span><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>List sponsored by Home Power magazine</span><br><span></span><br><span>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Options & settings:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List rules & etiquette:</span><br><span><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Check out participant bios:</span><br><span><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>