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<DIV>Hey Carl,</DIV>
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<DIV> Li ion batteries are awesome and will
be used extensively in the first generation of electric cars (supposedly) coming
to a showroom near you. However, a pack like the one you've
described will only be affordable to those with the ability to buy a super
yacht, not 98 % of the customers we deal with. I doubt there is an
algorithm available in a CC that can handle Li ion.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bill</DIV>
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<DIV>Feather River Solar Electric<BR>4291 Nelson St.<BR>Taylorsville, CA
95983<BR>530-284-7849/6544 fax</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=freepower@freepower.co.nz
href="mailto:freepower@freepower.co.nz">Carl Emerson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 04, 2010 3:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> **Possible_Spam** Re:
[RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
there,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I notice Mastervolt
have a new range of Li Ion batteries, I know of a 3000Ah 24V bank going into a
super yacht.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is this not a battery
technology worthy of consideration as well?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Each cell block has
built in electronic regulation for individual
cells.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">They boast of high
efficiency, deep discharge, light weight and long
life.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Carl
Emerson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Web
www.freepower.co.nz<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>toddcory@finestplanet.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 5 October 2010 9:29
a.m.<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 13.5pt"><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lead cadmium or lead calcium?
Again, I do not have the cycle chart handy, but hopefully James can post that.
<BR><BR>Todd<BR><BR>On Monday, October 4, 2010 8:11am, "Mark Frye"
<markf@berkeleysolar.com> said:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Todd,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can you give us a
comparison of lead vs lead cadmium?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My understanding is
that lead cadmium are suited for standby operations such as telecomm back
up. That means spending most of the time in float, with occasional short
term high discharge rate with very high DOD available.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How well do they
cross over into a daily-cycle off-grid situation with moderate daily
DOD?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mark Frye</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Berkeley Solar Electric
Systems</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">303 Redbud Way</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Nevada City, CA
95959</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(530) 401-8024</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR><A
href="http://www.berkeleysolar.com/"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">www.berkeleysolar.com</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>toddcory@finestplanet.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, October 04, 2010 12:23
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=4><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know many on this list
disagree, but this sounds SO typical for sealed batteries. It is why I never
use em... never! If they are 5 years old, you are probably at the limit of
their life. Replace em with flooded lead calciums and your customers (and you)
will be happy for 20+ years.<BR><BR>my
.o2<BR><BR>Todd</SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><BR>Sent from Finest Planet
WebMail.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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