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<div>Hi Mark,</div>
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<div>Yes I've done several grid-tie hydro systems.&nbsp; As Dave says
Derik is&nbsp; your man for components.&nbsp; I've also worked with
SMA to tweak the settings on the SB to be a WB (&quot;water
boy&quot;).&nbsp; Actually no tweaks are absolutely necessary.&nbsp;
But if you shorten the reset time it helps when the hydro goes down
and you are trying to test it to bring it back up.&nbsp; Derik is
aware of these tweak refinements but it will work without any
tweaks.</div>
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<div>We have been running 2&nbsp; 2500 watt induction generators into
two 2500 &quot;Water Boys&quot;&nbsp; at one site now since the spring
of '06 - 24 hours/day with no inverter failures.&nbsp; We throttled
the water down so that the each inverter see a continuous 2200 watts.&nbsp;
We don't dare to go higher as they run pretty hot at that.&nbsp; 4400
watts continuous is 3168 KWHs/Month= 38,000 KWHrs/yr!&nbsp; Runs the
whole ranch - Install cost was around $20,000.&nbsp; Can send pics if
you'd like.</div>
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<div>Make sure you use redundant load dumps!</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Jeff Clearwater</div>
<div>Village Power Design</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Derik at HI Power hydro has done several
of these with grid tie DC voltage with diversion.<br>
You can reach him at <a
href="mailto:derik@asis.com">derik@asis.com</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.hipowerhydro.com/">http://www.hipowerhydro.com/</a><br
>
cheers,<br>
David<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>David Katz<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>David Katz<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Chief Technical Officer<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>AEE Solar<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>1155 Redway Drive<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>P.O. Box 339<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Redway, CA&nbsp; 95560<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Tel (707) 825-1200<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Fax (707) 825-1202<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><a
href="mailto:david@aeesolar.com">dkatz@aeesolar.com</a><br>
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<br>
Mark Dickson wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Hello Wrenches,</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Got one for you. . .</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">We have a customer that has great potential for a
micro-hydro system and already has the grid on his property.&nbsp; The
obvious way to tie the turbine unit in would be to go back through
batteries and a GVFX or XW.&nbsp; In trying to eliminate the batteries
and the inefficiencies I want to look at using a battery-less grid-tie
inverter.&nbsp; I am assuming that I could use a small inverter such
as the PVP 1100 and high-voltage Stream Engine.&nbsp; The problem I am
trying to work around is how to divert the ~240DC output of the
turbine, if and when the grid goes down.&nbsp; Would this be as simple
a placing a relay on the AC side of the inverter and having it switch
on/off a large diversion load?</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">For the diversion load I was thinking I could just
series up a set of water heater elements to get to the necessary
voltage.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">&nbsp;</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Has anybody accomplished this before?&nbsp; Jay?&nbsp;
Are there any other elegant solutions for this?</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Has anybody successfully used a WindyBoy with
hydro?</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="-1"
color="#000080">Best regards,</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="-1"
color="#000080">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="-1"
color="#000080">Mark Dickson,</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1" color="#000080">NABCEP
Certified Solar PV Installer </font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="-1"
color="#000080">Oasis Montana Inc.</font><br>
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size="-1">&nbsp;</font><br>
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