<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Eric</div><div><br></div><div>You might want to consider using these-></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.chemlink.com/docs/datasheets/chemlink_chemcurbs.pdf">http://www.chemlink.com/docs/datasheets/chemlink_chemcurbs.pdf</a></div><div>Nice video</div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaqzk-G5WDk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaqzk-G5WDk</a></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "solarepiphany@gmail.com" <solarepiphany@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, February 25, 2010 9:31:25 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] Torchdown, low pitched PV. How to weatherproof.<br></font><br>
Hey there,<br><br>Any best practices out there for low pitch, torchdown weatherproofing? I know the industry standard (now) is to NOT rely on mastics/sealants alone; that mechanical flashing is the only form of adequately protecting roof penetrations. BUT, what about torchdown? There are quite a bit of these types of roofs in my area, I need to understand the options for future ref. Any help is appreciated. <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Eric<br>NABCEP Cert. PV Installer<br>Seattle<br>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:25:52 <br>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 3, Issue
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Crise)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:11:00 -0800 (PST)<br>From: Darryl Thayer <<a ymailto="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com" href="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com">daryl_solar@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: RE-wrenches <<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Transformerless inverters require special<br> plug leads on the PV modules, right?<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:601511.61364.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com" href="mailto:601511.61364.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com">601511.61364.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>The transformer-less inverter does not have the separation between AC and DC as in a transformer type. The Solar
Modules do not have overcurent protection as in the AC system. So the wire has to be sized Isc x 156% all the way through the system or larger if required by the AC system. <br><br>--- On Thu, 2/25/10, Mick Abraham <<a ymailto="mailto:mick@abrahamsolar.com" href="mailto:mick@abrahamsolar.com">mick@abrahamsolar.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> From: Mick Abraham <<a ymailto="mailto:mick@abrahamsolar.com" href="mailto:mick@abrahamsolar.com">mick@abrahamsolar.com</a>><br>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Transformerless inverters require special plug leads on the PV modules, right?<br>> To: "RE-wrenches" <<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 12:54 PM<br>> Hi, Mechanix~<br>> <br>> Am I correct that the good ol' plug connector leads on<br>> many solar modules are non-compatible
with transformerless<br>> grid-tie inverters? If so...which module mfrs have switched<br>> to the different type of wire and how can I be sure?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Specifically, would the 2010 Sharp 230 polycrystal or the<br>> Yingli 230 polycrystal modules be properly equipped for use<br>> with the x-formerless inverters?<br>> <br>> ...and...the next time I buy #10 sunlight resistant wire<br>> for making up my own plug extensions...should I buy a more<br>> exotic wire type and how do I know what will work?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>> <br>> Mick Abraham, Proprietor<br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.abrahamsolar.com">www.abrahamsolar.com</a><br>> <br>> Voice: 970-731-4675<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br>> <br>> List Address: <a
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<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:12:22 -0600<br>From: "James A. Hartley" <<a ymailto="mailto:grail@inil.com" href="mailto:grail@inil.com">grail@inil.com</a>><br>To: "RE-wrenches" <<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar rights precedent<br>Message-ID: <B71A272C9DF84BDB9FA1FBB4560F7F69@jim9rs6sced6qa><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>You might start with the Law of Ancient Lights in English common law as to the rightful access to sunlight and build your case up from that hoary tradition. There are many instances of this law in practice and its definition. Google knows most of these. <br><br> <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: William Miller <br> To: RE-wrenches <br> Sent:
Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:27 PM<br> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Solar rights precedent<br><br><br> Friends:<br><br> We are applying for a building permit in a small coastal community near here for a PV system. The arrays will be on the flat roof of a house that is right up against the allowable building height. The city is requiring that we apply for a waiver to exceed the allowed height. As I read California law, it allows public agencies to rule on a permit application only in regards to public safety and health issues. Repeated letters to the city attorney has failed to result in how a building height limitation is a mater of public health and safety.<br><br> Have any of you successfully fought a building department on this issue? If so, is there any written documentation on the issue that I can use?<br><br> Thanks in advance,<br><br> William Miller<br><br><br><br> Please note
new e-mail address and domain:<br><br> William Miller <br> Miller Solar<br> Voice :805-438-5600<br> email: <a ymailto="mailto:william@millersolar.com" href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a><br><span> <a target="_blank" href="http://millersolar.com">http://millersolar.com</a></span><br> License No. C-10-773985<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br> _______________________________________________<br> List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br> List Address: <a ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br> Options & settings:<br> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"
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Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:16:11 -0800<br>From: Marv Dargatz <<a ymailto="mailto:mdargatz@enphaseenergy.com" href="mailto:mdargatz@enphaseenergy.com">mdargatz@enphaseenergy.com</a>><br>To: RE-wrenches <<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Transformerless inverters require special<br> plug leads on the PV modules, right?<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4B86CC7B.2060407@enphaseenergy.com" href="mailto:4B86CC7B.2060407@enphaseenergy.com">4B86CC7B.2060407@enphaseenergy.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br><span>URL: <<a target="_blank"
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href="mailto:C21C3C55-9F02-40E5-97D3-AE5201D44FB6@nietc.org">C21C3C55-9F02-40E5-97D3-AE5201D44FB6@nietc.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed";<br> DelSp="yes"<br><br>The NEC requires PV wire in 690.35(D). If you are using <br>transformerless inverters, you should also take a look at the other <br>requirements of 690.35.<br>Regards,<br>Brian<br><br>To contact Brian L Crise:<br><br>Address:<br>16021 NE Airport Way<br>Portland OR, 97230<br><br>Office Phone: (503) 262-9991 x.5054<br>Direct line: (503) 501-5054<br>Cell Phone: (503) 869-7481<br><br>e-mail: <a ymailto="mailto:bcrise@nietc.org" href="mailto:bcrise@nietc.org">bcrise@nietc.org</a><br><br><br><br>On Feb 25, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Marv Dargatz wrote:<br><br>> Ungrounded (transformerless) systems require PV wire, not USE2. PV <br>> wire is
listed under the ZKLA category at UL. Go to the UL <br><span>> certifications page ( <a target="_blank" href="http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.html">http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.html</a> </span><br>> ) and enter ZKLA in the "UL Category Code" box for a list of <br>> approved manufacturers.<br>><br>> See ya!<br>><br>> Marv<br>> 707 763-4784 x7016<br>><br>><br>> <a ymailto="mailto:toddcory@finestplanet.com" href="mailto:toddcory@finestplanet.com">toddcory@finestplanet.com</a> wrote:<br>>><br>>> USE2<br>>><br>>> Todd<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:54am, "Mick Abraham" <<a ymailto="mailto:mick@abrahamsolar.com" href="mailto:mick@abrahamsolar.com">mick@abrahamsolar.com</a> <br>>> > said:<br>>><br>>><br>>> ...and...the next time I buy
#10 sunlight resistant wire for making <br>>> up my own plug extensions...should I buy a more exotic wire type <br>>> and how do I know what will work?<br>>><br>>> Thanks,<br>>><br>>> Mick Abraham, Proprietor<br><span>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.abrahamsolar.com">www.abrahamsolar.com</a></span><br>>><br>>> Voice: 970-731-4675<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br>>><br>>> List Address: <a ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>>><br>>> Options & settings:<br>>> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>>><br>>>
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