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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>William and Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;ve been following this post and thought I&#8217;d make a
quick comment on the value of NABCEP certification. William, you mention below
that NABCEP certification currently offers &#8220;no benefit&#8221; for you. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There are several benefits I&#8217;ve seen in being NABCEP
certified. First, our company has been invited to bid on projects which require
a minimum of one employee who is NABCEP certified. If we didn&#8217;t have
certified employees we wouldn&#8217;t have even been invited to the party. In
addition, I&#8217;ve been through the process and I found that just studying
and preparing for the exam was helpful to keep me fresh and up to date. It&#8217;s
a good thing to have on my resume. In addition to that, I try to hire and encourage
our employees to go for the certification. This is one way to improve our
overall crew quality. If I wasn&#8217;t personally certified I would have less
clout when making management decisions with a NABCEP certified installer. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>At the very least I&#8217;ve been contacted many times by people
who found my name on the NABCEP website oftentimes resulting in new positive
relationships.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-August<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>August Goers<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Luminalt Energy Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>O: 415.564.7652<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>M: 415.559.1525<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>F: 650.244.9167<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William
Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 30, 2009 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] NABCEP<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Tump:<br>
<br>
I think we are in agreement here.&nbsp; There needs to be some method to enable
qualified installers and disable unqualified.<br>
<br>
I don't think the issue is whether I support NABCEP's goals or not.&nbsp; The
issue is that regulators do not require some type of verification that a given
installer can perform a safe installation.&nbsp; If NABCEP certification were
required, I would have it and those just dabbling in the trade would not.&nbsp;
This would be an improvement over the current situation.<br>
<br>
Until this requirement becomes reality, acquiring NAPCEP certification has no
benefit for me.<br>
<br>
William Miller<br>
<br>
At 07:03 AM 11/26/2009, you wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Having worked for many years educating my clients, legislators and
other officials of the value of a NABCEP certification,NABCEP IS important to
me. I have invested many hours working w/ the early supporters,
developing&nbsp; a national certification program which morphed into the NABCEP
program. I also work on various NABCEP committees working to insure NABCEP,the
test &amp; the test questions are relevant AND continue to address the real
world of PV installations I personally find your lack of support for the NABCEP
certification undermining.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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