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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think t</FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>his
thread has rolled over to RE-Markets so I am posting it on both, but my
last time on RE-Wrenches.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>PV is an international industry with parts
coming from all over the world. Some companies are good corporate citizens, make
good quality equipment, and pay their workers living
wages. It saddens me when PV people rationalize paying
Chinese PV factory workers US$100/month. It also saddens me when U.S. PV factory
workers do not earn enough to own a home let alone put PV on
their home.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Wrenches do a good job learning about the
products they buy and resell. I encourage you to learn more about the companies
from whom you buy. When you Google solar factory conditions, you don't get
the same bad news that you get when you google Nike factory
conditions. Let's keep it that way.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Joel Davidson</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com
href="mailto:nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com">Nick Soleil</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 06, 2009 12:58
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Evergreen to
China, What is American made?</DIV>
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This thread is hilarious and tragic. What started a couple days ago as
an attempt to desperately find a source for US made modules lead the group to
discuss the always American made Evergreen, but mid-thread (yesterday)
Evergreen announces that they are moving their assembly to China. So
what now Bob-O, Mexico may be better than China, but is China better than
China?<BR> So what now? I use BP mostly, which always
provided American made options, and we would sell those to the Buy-American
crowd. However, beginning a couple months back, those American lines
began getting 'Made in China' stickers too, (with no notice to
us.) One of my customer's was pissed when he saw that sticker after
paying extra for American made.<BR> There is Unisolar in the
US. Does First Solar manufacture in the US?<BR>
<DIV> Honestly, I am glad that panel prices have come
down so far, sorry if that is making life hard for Evergreen and other
manufacturers, but solar should be more affordable. If all the
manufactureres move to China, then atleast my competitors can't use American
Made as a selling point against me. Now instead, they can remind
customers that the BP in BP Solar stands for British Petroleum. "Yes, it
is the same company as the oil company."<BR></DIV>Nick Soleil<BR>Project
Manager<BR>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<BR>PO Box
657<BR>Petaluma, CA 94953<BR>Cell: 707-321-2937<BR>Office:
707-789-9537<BR>Fax: 707-769-9037
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Mark Frye
<markf@berkeleysolar.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> jryago@netscape.com; RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thu, November 5, 2009 7:02:04
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [RE-wrenches]
Evergreen - now what?<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=328555614-05112009>Very interesting questions Jeff. What exactly
do we mean when we say "USA products".</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=328555614-05112009>I use Sharp exclusively. I believe the
silicon ingots are grown in Russia. They are sliced and doped in China.
But they are assembled into modules in Tennesse.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=328555614-05112009></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=328555614-05112009>Does this make it a product of the USA? If not,
should I stop using Sharp. But what about all those jobs in
Tennesse?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=328555614-05112009></SPAN></FONT><BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Mark Frye</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Berkeley Solar Electric Systems</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face=Arial>303 Redbud Way</FONT> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Nevada City, CA
95959</FONT></SPAN></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face=Arial>(530)
401-8024</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><A
href="http://www.berkeleysolar.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank><SPAN
lang=en-us><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>www.berkeleysolar.com</FONT></U></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
size=2 face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff
Yago<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Evergreen - now
what?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>We are currently waiting on a stack of Evergreen modules (which are
now very late to ship!) and we were getting ready to order another batch,
so does this mean we should be looking into another supplier? </DIV>
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<DIV>We try very hard to buy USA products, but that is getting harder and
harder to do. It looks like its now just SolarWorld in
California. What other module manufacturers are still actually making
their modules in US and not importing from China.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jeff Yago</DIV>
<DIV>DTI SolarNet</DIV></DIV>
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