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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s obvious you feel pretty strongly
about this and you have always made a lot of sense over the years. But I’m
not seeing your side completely. The business owner still has some costs
and risks associated with warranting their own system. If they are
troubleshooting/removing/replacing components they either aren’t getting
paid themselves or they are paying their own employees to do the work. What
about the module manufacturer that tanks within the warranty period leaving installer
holding the bag on bad modules? It doesn’t matter if they are
on his (or her) roof or not. I would agree that it’s easier this
less expensive to support the warranty on your own gear but it’s certainly
not free. Perhaps the reduced credit is fair but it’s not accurate
to say the installer has no costs associated with warranty of their own system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Travis Creswell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ozark Energy Services<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bill Brooks<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 31, 2009
10:57 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches]
Installer's grant</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Roger, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Why would a
legitimate contractor argue against this reduced incentive (it is not a penalty
at all)? This is simply acknowledging the fact that operating a business and
providing a long-term system warranty costs money that a self-installer does
not have to carry. This actually came from a strong recommendation I made to
the California Energy Commission since early in the rebate program over 30% of
installations were “self-installed” which was a bunch of BS. These
were black market contractors who did not want to carry a system warranty or
did not have the credentials to install the system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Once we installed
the slightly lower rebate cleaned up most of the black market contracting and
the number of self-installed systems went to the real number of less than 5%.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Arguing against the
lower rebate was a mistake that you are going to regret. It’s helpful to
learn from history before repeating it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>roger <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">dixon</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 31, 2009 1:33
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches]
Installer's grant<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#0000cc" face=Constantia><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:#0000CC'>Try the DSIRE
website, <a href="http://www.dsireusa.org/">http://www.dsireusa.org/</a>.
It lists both state and federal incentives for renewable energy and energy
efficiency. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:#0000CC'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#0000cc" face=Constantia><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:#0000CC'>Up until this
year, NJ would penalize a “self install”, reducing the rebate
amount by 15%. We argued against that and they have now removed that
penalty.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:#0000CC'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Roger
Dixon<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'>Certified Wind Site Assessor<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Skylands
Renewable Energy, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=black face=Constantia><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:black;font-weight:bold'>908.337.2057
cell<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:black;font-weight:bold'>908.730.6474
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Constantia;color:#0000CC;font-weight:bold'>roger.dixon@skylandsre.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Drake Chamberlin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 31, 2009
10:50 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] Installer's
grant<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello Wrenches,<br>
<br>
I wanted to see how other states are handling solar grants / rebates on the
homes of installers. In <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ohio</st1:place></st1:State>
there is a grant program that gives $3.00 / Watt toward residential
systems. Eligible installers must be approved by the state, and funds are
allotted to the installer. <br>
<br>
In this years program, there is a "conflict of interest" clause which
says that installers, employees of installers and subcontractors of installers
are not eligible for any grant funding from the grant received by the
installer. It is likely that installers can hire their competition
to do installations.<br>
<br>
Do other states have this conflict of interest clause?<br>
<br>
Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Drake Chamberlin<br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Athens</st1:place></st1:City> Electric<br>
OH License 44810<br>
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