<font face="arial" size="4">We have a local company who sells "designed", packaged systems wholesale to the public. IMO, their designs are poor and the quality of the customer installs are equally suspicious. I support incentive and tax credits penalizing this kind of behavior with lower financial support.<br><br>Todd<br><br><br><br>On Monday, August 31, 2009 8:57pm, "Bill Brooks" <billbrooks7@yahoo.com> said:<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Roger, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Why would a legitimate contractor argue against this reduced
incentive (it is not a penalty at all)? This is simply acknowledging the fact
that operating a business and providing a long-term system warranty costs money
that a self-installer does not have to carry. This actually came from a strong
recommendation I made to the California Energy Commission since early in the
rebate program over 30% of installations were \u201cself-installed\u201d
which was a bunch of BS. These were black market contractors who did not want
to carry a system warranty or did not have the credentials to install the
system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Once we installed the slightly lower rebate cleaned up most of
the black market contracting and the number of self-installed systems went to
the real number of less than 5%.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Arguing against the lower rebate was a mistake that you are
going to regret. It\u2019s helpful to learn from history before repeating it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>roger
dixon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2009 1:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Constantia","serif"; color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">Try
the DSIRE website, <a href="http://www.dsireusa.org/">http://www.dsireusa.org/</a>.
It lists both state and federal incentives for renewable energy and energy
efficiency. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Constantia","serif"; color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">Up
until this year, NJ would penalize a \u201cself install\u201d, reducing the
rebate amount by 15%. We argued against that and they have now removed
that penalty.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "Constantia","serif"; color: black;">Roger
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family: "Constantia","serif"; color: black;">Certified Wind Site Assessor<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "Constantia","serif"; color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">roger.dixon@skylandsre.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake
Chamberlin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2009 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in;">Hello Wrenches,<br>
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I wanted to see how other states are handling solar grants / rebates on the
homes of installers. In Ohio there is a grant program that gives $3.00 /
Watt toward residential systems. Eligible installers must be approved by
the state, and funds are allotted to the installer. <br>
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In this years program, there is a "conflict of interest" clause which
says that installers, employees of installers and subcontractors of installers
are not eligible for any grant funding from the grant received by the
installer. It is likely that installers can hire their competition
to do installations.<br>
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Do other states have this conflict of interest clause?<br>
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Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="color: blue;">Drake Chamberlin<br>
Athens Electric<br>
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Mobile - 740-856-9648 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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