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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don&#8217;t have time to do the exact math
but think a small inverter and linear fluorescent is a clear winner of your
trying to adequately light the bulk of the class room.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Linear fluorescent has lumens per watt in
the upper 80&#8217;s. &nbsp;CFL (DC or AC) is upper 40&#8217;s and LED is the
same as CFL and maybe a little worse depending on whose products you are
comparing.&nbsp; You&#8217;ll also note that it&#8217;s next to impossible to
get Lumens per Watt specs from LED suppliers. &nbsp;It&#8217;s like the new car
company refusing to publish a MPG spec but readily waves a made up spec that
alludes to MPG but isn&#8217;t really. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve been asking the
numerous LED manufactures that call on me for samples so I can do side by side
testing with CF and LF and NONE of them call back a 2<sup>nd</sup> time so I&#8217;m
really still quite nervous about LED for &#8220;real&#8221; applications. Ok
sorry about that LED rant&#8230;.LED&#8217;s are cool they are not the panacea
they are being made out to be,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Two evenly spaced fixtures that use a single
4&#8217; tube will almost adequately light the entire room of that size and use
about 60 watts total. &nbsp;Total Lumens would be ~5400.&nbsp; Assuming the
tare and efficiency losses put the Morningstar 300 at net efficiency of approx
85% that take our lumens per watt to something in the mid 70&#8217;s which is
still much better then DC LED and DC CFL.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best, Travis Creswell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ozark Energy Services<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Walt Ratterman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 17, 2009 5:34
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] Solar 12 volt DC lighting for school in
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hello Lee,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Walt here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I will be leaving
for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region>
in about a week, and be there for three&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>We have done lots of
schools.&nbsp; If you are strictly 12V, your choices primarily are 12V CF and
LED lights.&nbsp; There are lots of pros and cons to both.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The real question is
what you intend to use the lights for.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>If you go to our
photo gallery (link from home page:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sunepi.org">www.sunepi.org</a>
), and check out the Sierra Leone gallery, you will see some clamp-on LED
Lights that are 12V and are used for night time studying. They are pretty much
task lights and are low level.&nbsp; If you are trying to keep the system
really small in terms of watts of solar panels, (and cost) these can be great,
but again &#8211; the primary question is what will the light be used for.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>A step up from that
would be the 12V CFL&#8217;s. Might be tough to get in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region> (for
replacements).&nbsp; I can check next week and let you know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>If you have any kind
of distances involved, you will probably want to consider an inverter
(Morningstar SS-300 is great) to avoid the losses associated with 12V dc
wiring.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Feel free to contact
me off line if you want to go over this some more&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Walt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lee Bristol<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 17, 2009 2:53
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>@lists.re-wrenches.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>]
Solar 12 volt DC lighting for school in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Can anyone recommend lights for a school in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region>.&nbsp; I am going there in a
couple of months to install a 12 volt solar PV system and need to illuminate
seven 16 x 20 foot school rooms.&nbsp; I am so confused by all of the light
bulb options, base options, CFL vs LED, what wattage is required, etc.&nbsp; I
would expect that two fixtures with bulbs would suffice for a room.&nbsp; Any
ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>There is no grid power available&#8230;this is really out in the
boondocks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Lee<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-- <br>
Lee Bristol<br>
NABCEP Certified Solar Designer/Installer<br>
<br>
Chief Technology Officer<br>
Standard Solar, Inc.<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">202 Perry Parkway, #7</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Gaithersburg</st1:City>, <st1:State
 w:st="on">MD</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">20877</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
(301) 944-5105<br>
(240) 479-1510 (c)<br>
<a href="http://www.standardsolar.com">www.standardsolar.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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