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<DIV>It is good to see several people are trying to put out this fire (pun). Unfortunately, the internet's memory is almost impossible to purge. I think that the best corrective action is to ask fire safety people to speak up and say "No, that's not true" each time any incorrect info pops up.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "Jeff Clearwater, Village Power Design" <jeffc@villagepower.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:44:25 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria?<BR></FONT><BR>Nicely done Bill and Matt P !<BR><BR>Hopefully that'll set a good precedent for future discussions and <BR>guidelines on this!<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>>William and all,<BR>><BR>>I notified a friend of mine in the fire service about this, and he has<BR>>followed up with the website to have the article removed. Here is the thread<BR>>with me and the website:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Note to me:<BR>><BR>>This article is exactly the same as one I received from a young firefighter<BR>>from Orange
County, CA a few months ago. I made numerous comments on it,<BR>>and sent him our video. Curiously, I just emailed him yesterday inquiring<BR>>as to the status of his interest in publishing an <BR>>article, and heard back that he had not taken any action on it. It <BR>>appears the original "Author" got this posted. I will attempt to have this<BR>>article removed from this site, for correction.<BR>><BR>>FE Matthew Paiss, T13B<BR>>San Jose Fire Department<BR>>San Jose, CA<BR>><BR>><BR>>Note from Matt to website administrator:<BR>><BR>>Billy,<BR>><BR>>By way of introduction, my name is Matt Paiss. I am a Fire Engineer for the<BR>>San Jose Fire Department. Additionally, I am a subject matter expert in the<BR>>area of Solar Photovoltaic (PV) Firefighter Safety, have a degree in Solar<BR>>Technology, and am a member of the State Fire Marshals Office PV Task
Force<BR>>which is tasked with creating guidelines for the safe installation of said<BR>>systems. I also teach classes on PV Safety for Firefighters.<BR>><BR>>I was sent this article (below) to review a few months ago.<BR>><A href="http://firefighterclosecalls.com/fullstory.php?77468" target=_blank>http://firefighterclosecalls.com/fullstory.php?77468</A><BR>><BR>>It is riddled with incorrect statements and does a disservice to the fire<BR>>service in the fact that it presents us as ignorant to the science and<BR>>realities of Solar Photovoltaic systems. I sent the "Author" a redlined<BR>>commentary and suggested that he take some time to gather factual background<BR>>info prior to attempting to publish.<BR>><BR>>My request is that you remove it, and refer the author to me to help correct<BR>>his info. I believe that there is information that FF's need to know about<BR>>these systems, but
this is NOT it. Let's get it right.<BR>><BR>>Best Regards,<BR>><BR>>FE Matthew Paiss, T13B<BR>>San Jose Fire Department<BR>>San Jose, CA<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Note from administrator to Matt:<BR>><BR>>Thanks Matt! Please send me what should be posted and we will not only<BR>>remove it-but will also send it out on The Secret List with your name and<BR>>any other affiliate org that can substantiate the facts. A simple (FF<BR>>readable-you know what I mean) document would be great.<BR>>Thanks!<BR>>Billy<BR>><BR>><BR>>Final message from Matt to administrator:<BR>><BR>>Will do Chief!<BR>>As the info is incorrect in so many areas, would you please consider<BR>>removing it now? It does reflect poorly on both <A href="http://firefighterclosecalls.com/" target=_blank>firefighterclosecalls.com</A><BR>>AND the fire service in general. I was actually sent the link by a
friend<BR>>who works for the DOE, and asked if I could help. I will get you a more<BR>>accurate article within a week, if you could grant me that time. I promise<BR>>it will be FF-friendly!! I am preparing for 3 classes and am a bit swamped.<BR>><BR>>FE Matthew Paiss, T13B<BR>>San Jose Fire Department<BR>>San Jose, CA<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<BR>><BR>>List Address: <A href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</A><BR>><BR>>Options & settings:<BR>><A href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target=_blank>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</A><BR>><BR>>List-Archive: <BR>><A
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