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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>It would seem to me that a properly
designed off-grid system with a properly engineered battery (or other) back-up
subsystem would provide a continuous source of power. One may need to do a load
calc to show that the PV system (under a suitable worst case scenario) can indeed
provide the 24 hour load requirements. </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- Peter</span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Peter T. Parrish, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>
Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Bogan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 14, 2008
3:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jryago@netscape.com;
RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] permit
denined since no grid connection</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jeff,</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had a couple off-grid installations
(newly constructed homes) where the owners could not get their certificate of
occupancy until the off-grid system was installed and inspected. Once it passed
they officially could move in.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Richard</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeff Yago<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 14, 2008
1:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> allan@positiveenergysolar.com;
RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] permit
denined since no grid connection</span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial'><br>
Thank goodness this was not my project, but I just received a call from a
couple that had purchased an old farm house in a rural&nbsp;part of the
state&nbsp;that was almost a mile from utility lines and never had power.&nbsp;
They are renovating the old farmhouse and applied for all permits from county
and have no problem with having inspections.&nbsp; However, the electrical
permit was denied on the basis there was &quot;no&nbsp;contineous source of
power&nbsp;and this would not be classified as a weekend type
cabin&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, I guess its possible a local county can make up
their own rules, but I am not aware of any requirement in the NEC, and if there
is a specific rule, I would think all they would need to do is provide
information on their proposed generator/solar/battery/inverter system.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We have never had any problems like this in any other
counties we have systems,&nbsp;but before I advise them on how to proceed I
wanted to make&nbsp;sure&nbsp;that there were no&nbsp;specific code
requirements other than&nbsp;the electrical inspection.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Have you run into this before?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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font-family:Arial'>Netscape.&nbsp; Just the Net You Need.</span></font></p>

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