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    <p>I know, but I think Outback possibly had a bad batch about 20
      years ago.  They were tripping just a year after installation....</p>
    <p>Ray</p>
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      They are both made by CBI of south africa
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            <div>On May 1, 2026, at 3:08 PM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
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                <p>I've also seen some Outback 15A breakers in combiner
                  boxes just trip when they shouldn't.  Replaced with
                  Midnite and quit having problems.  As others
                  mentioned, going to larger breakers is usually fine. 
                  I usually match the fuse rating for the module
                  itself.  Many are 20A, which gets away from any edge
                  of cloud stuff too.  </p>
                <p>Ray Walters<br>
                  Remote Solar</p>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2026 1:55 PM, David
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                    <div>It could be that the breakers are tripping due
                      to the cloud-edge effect.  This happens when you
                      have a sunny day with a few puffy clouds <span
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                      by.  As the clouds start to shade the array, there
                      is a focusing effect around the cloud that will
                      increase the sunlight on the array.  If the
                      breakers are close to the max output of the array,
                      then they can trip during these sunny/cloudy
                      days.  Increasing the breakers to the next size
                      up, if the wiring will handle it, will fix the
                      problem.  I have seen this in a few
                      installations.  Changing the breakers from 10 amps
                      to 15 amps fixed the problem.<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 30,
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                      <div dir="auto">Wrenches,<br>
                        <div dir="auto">I've got a c client with an
                          Outback PV combiner with DIN mount CBs. He's
                          let me know a few times that 9 of 10 , or at
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                        <div dir="auto">of the breakers are tripping for
                          no apparent reason. He resets, and all is fine
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                        <div dir="auto">I suspect something is wrong
                          with the array vs. the breakers needing
                          replaced.<br>
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                        <div dir="auto">What should I be looking for and
                          checking?  </div>
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                          The client has made sure the breaker screws
                          are tight. </div>
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                            <li>Off grid</li>
                            <li>Pole mounted array</li>
                            <li>Solarex 110 w Modules</li>
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                        <div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
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                          Jeremy Rodriguez</div>
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