<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Scot - </div><div><br></div><div>I would think that the easiest solution is to just tie the solar into the utility side of the ATS. I understand that is what you are trying to avoid. Otherwise, you could set up the PV system in <a href="https://enphase.com/download/power-export-limit-iq7-and-iq8-series-microinverter-systems">non-export</a>, but that would negate potential NEM or utility excess energy credits, if they exist in your neck of the woods. Otherwise I think it is potentially bad news to backfeed a generator! I just had an electrician call me on a site where this happened and it caused voltage instability on the site.</div><div><br></div><div>Best, August</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 12:47 PM scot.arey--- via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8012376398208827577">




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Thanks but I'm just trying to grid-tie a small Enphase array without ESS where the point of interconnection is on the customer side of the generator/ATS.<br>
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Trying to use existing wires in place to simplify and lower costs...but the generator is my constraint because I need the PoI to be on line side of the ATS.</div>
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<b>Cc:</b> Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com" target="_blank">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>><br>
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 so I could be wrong about how the IQ8s work. That said, Enphase has strict pairing specifications and an approved generator list. They seem confident in their ability to limit backfeed to the generator in this scenario.</div>
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<div>That is why most AIO inverters have a relay on the dedicated AC coupling input. It will open the relay if the inverter sees generator power.</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Enphase IQ8 microinverters will absolutely leak some power back to the grid when set to a no-export grid profile. How much, and if that is detrimental to the generator is another question. I suspect if the
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I many years ago watched the fast-switching capabilities of the IQ-8 microinverters to produce only what demanded of the MI, and wondered if it might have application in a grid-tied system that is served by a whole-house generator.</div>
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We have the opportunity to install grid-tied-only array of 24 IQ8 but all the MIs will be on the customer side of an auto-transfer switch and generator. We want to leverage using existing building wiring to carry the solar and all solar sizing meets the 120%
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But I know that grid-tied solar on the customer load-side of the transfer switch means no place for full solar power production to flow to when the grid is not available...but  then I thought back to that fast switching capability: is there a way to ensure
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I suspect the answer is "are you nuts???" but that video of capability got me thinking, "why not?" and if not, how is it - what tells the MI to cease production? - when it is within a full and proper ISC/ESS system design?<br>
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