<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Darryl, Quote: "<span style="font-family: "times new roman", serif; font-size: large;">When a cell in the battery reaches full charge the circuit bypasses that cell</span><font face="times new roman, serif" size="4">”</font><div><br></div><div>Not exactly. The BMS balance circuit reduces current (example 300ma) to any cell that has reached the balance voltage setting (example 3.55v) while other lower SoC cells in series continue charging. </div><div><br></div><div>If a cell reaches the over voltage protection limit (about 3.8V for LFP), the BMS will disable all current flow. All batteries in series with this battery will stop charging due to the open circuit BMS. This can quickly cause a series battery bank to become out of balance. A battery balancer like Victron is very effective in preventing this.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><div>On Dec 31, 2025, at 11:30 AM, Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:large">I hope I am responding correctly. Each battery has a built-in circuit that is called a top balancer. When a cell in the battery reaches full charge the circuit bypasses that cell with a top balance current making the whole battery drop to that top balance current. any battery connected in series with that battery is forced to that current, such that it will have to charge at the top balance current of the first battery to go to top balance current. best thing is to use a 48 volt lithium battery. If you must use these batteries use a good battery balancer, Victron is the best but still not as a 48 volt battery. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 12:01 PM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hi jim<br>
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As you have 4 battereis in series, you should use balancing devices between them. The kilovaukt are very susceptible to getting out of balance between batteries. <br>
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I had to work with a customer to fix his kilovault battereis. Numerous failures which was traced back to broken balancers. <br>
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Victron make good ones. <br>
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Jay<br>
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> On Dec 30, 2025, at 9:39 PM, Jim Gowdy via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Does anyone have any experience with the Kilovault 2400 HLX 12v batteries. I have a customer that wants to hook up a generator to his system and go over programming on an outback system. I looked up this battery company and they don't have a website and their phone number didn't work so I assume the company is out of business. I found a manual and the specs state that the bulk charge time is 2 minutes per battery I assume. I'm still a rookie and learning the proper charging parameters for different kinds of batteries so any help would be appreciated. He hasn't given me much info, but apparently there are......<br>
> -8 batteries on a 48v system. I assume the batteries are 2 strings of 4 batteries. <br>
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> -Outback FXR 30/48 inverter<br>
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> -Gasoline powered 120v output portable generator.....KW is unknown at the moment. *I don't like this, but it's what the customer bought. <br>
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