<div dir="auto">The service is 240v single phase. The customer does prefer to interconnect to utility, but Load-history is very low to justify this amount of solar.</div><div dir="auto"> As electricians, We know that we can take two hot legs of 480v 3<span style="font-size:inherit">φ </span><span style="font-size:inherit">and transform it down to 240v split. It’ll still be 60Hz. But getting PGE to agree to interconnect that architecture.. seems like such a long shot that they would agree, I don’t even want to try. </span><span style="font-size:inherit">That’s one reason I’m leaning toward SolArk 18K as the inverter choice.</span></div><div dir="auto"> Another facet of the same issue - let’s say I magically did get the green light from all entities to interconnect a higher voltage 3<span style="font-size:inherit">φ inverter into standard residential single phase. That would mean that Phases A and B would essentially always be carrying significant load, and C phase would only see action during Emergency outages. That degree of phase imbalance could set us up for a “no warranty” argument from manufacturers.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit"> Another detail: if we’re interconnected, part of the goal is to offset real-time load of 5 disparate utility meters. When I anticipate receiving input from 5 sets CT’s (over significant distance), feeding it into an MDI, correcting for voltage, verifying L1 versus L2 five times, etc etc. it’ll be hard enough to do it with 240 split phase native gear. I think it will be </span><span style="font-size:inherit">a nightmare getting all that to grok correctly with a 480/240 transformer in the mix while saying yes to a permanent phase imbalance.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit"> The customer wants a generator. So then that generator would have to push 480v onto ‘critical loads.’ It’s also really weird to see 480 in a residential setting, and could be dangerous for any other electrician besides me and my foreman. Especially, say 5, 10+ years from now if I’m not available.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit"> Avoiding all that ,, these are the reasons I think it makes most sense to keep everything the same phase and voltage.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:26 PM Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Interesting exercise here,<div dir="auto">5000 amps at 48 vdc, this would be 20+ Fortress evault max 48 vdc cabinets and l dont think you can put that many on the BMS.</div><div dir="auto">What service does he have, a 3 phase 120/208, 277/480, a 120 208 3 phase it would be around 600 + meter main, single phase close to a 1000, amps. You may want to consider a commercial solark inverter as l recall they are high voltage DC, It would be more efficient, smaller and less copper wire even with a transformer to step it down. Get more info on this existing service, voltage, phases, gets us all out of our boxes and thinking.</div><div dir="auto">Fun times</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 2:49 PM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>I do think the Electrician tried to balance the loads in the three 240 V panels, but how close he really came especially with add-ons down the road I don’t know. 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There is one owner. The plan is to have an ATS at each meter.</div><div dir="auto"> Regarding 3 phase offgrid, I’ve been concerned about phase imbalance. Maybe I don’t need to worry about that. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:51 PM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">A couple or three Discover HVs and Sol-Ark 60ks. Done quickly</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:00 PM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Why 48v, why not commercial DC, like 850? What are you looking at for kwh storage? A1000vdc buss, homemade or otherwise, would drop the buss rating down to about 300 A. Commercial grade inverters, such as 3-phase Delta PCS inverters are spec'ed for these situations.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:13 PM david quattro via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi everyone,</div><div> I am still helping an uber wealthy owner determine if he really wants this much power. If he does, do any of you have experience sourcing a 48v battery-combiner on the order of 4500 to 5000 amps?</div><div> I also want to get clear on how to best wire from batteries to combiner, and from combiner to inverters. 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