<div dir="auto">Interesting exercise here,<div dir="auto">5000 amps at 48 vdc, this would be 20+ Fortress evault max 48 vdc cabinets and l dont think you can put that many on the BMS.</div><div dir="auto">What service does he have, a 3 phase 120/208, 277/480, a 120 208 3 phase it would be around 600 + meter main, single phase close to a 1000, amps. You may want to consider a commercial solark inverter as l recall they are high voltage DC, It would be more efficient, smaller and less copper wire even with a transformer to step it down. 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There is one owner. The plan is to have an ATS at each meter.</div><div dir="auto"> Regarding 3 phase offgrid, I’ve been concerned about phase imbalance. Maybe I don’t need to worry about that. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:51 PM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">A couple or three Discover HVs and Sol-Ark 60ks. Done quickly</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:00 PM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Why 48v, why not commercial DC, like 850? What are you looking at for kwh storage? A1000vdc buss, homemade or otherwise, would drop the buss rating down to about 300 A. Commercial grade inverters, such as 3-phase Delta PCS inverters are spec'ed for these situations.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:13 PM david quattro via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi everyone,</div><div> I am still helping an uber wealthy owner determine if he really wants this much power. If he does, do any of you have experience sourcing a 48v battery-combiner on the order of 4500 to 5000 amps?</div><div> I also want to get clear on how to best wire from batteries to combiner, and from combiner to inverters. 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