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    <font size="2">I'm also running the EG4 server rack 24V 200 Ahr
      batteries with my old Outback VFX 3524, Classic 250 and<br>
      Morningstar Genstar 100, all open loop with no problem. It's all a
      matter of getting the charge settings right and<br>
      checking on the cell balance periodically.<br>
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      I'll be playing around with programming the Genstar for closed
      loop soon, should be fine but then, what to do<br>
      with the Classic.....we'll see how it goes.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Roy Butler
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747  

Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don’t.

“The less people know, the more stubbornly they know it.”

He who asks a question is a fool for a minute. He who does not ask is a fool for life

Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, 
a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

                
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/2025 2:51 PM, Mac Lewis via
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      <div dir="ltr">I have used EG4 24V 200Ahr server rack batteries
        with the same equipment and it works fine.  It will do closed
        loop with Victron if that happens in the future.
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        <div>Good Luck!</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at
          11:46 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi Chris </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">I have dozens of people with open loop
              lithium and older Outback equipment  All work flawlessly </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">There still is some incorrect information
              about the LBCO not working with LFP. That I believe dates
              from some older LFP designs. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">All the newer 16 series prismatic LFP work
              fine with LBCO/outback. </div>
            <div dir="ltr">As well as all the charge parameters. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Jay</div>
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              <blockquote type="cite">On Dec 17, 2025, at 9:54 AM, Chris
                Daum via RE-wrenches <<a
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Dear people:</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">We have a customer in Henryetta,
                    Oklahoma, and he’s been buying various equipment
                    from us over the years.  He’s elderly, a veteran,
                    and a believer in solar power.  But he’s been having
                    battery problems (he’s got twelve 6V L16 types at
                    present) and is interested in moving up to LFPs. 
                    He’s got an Outback VFX3524, FM60, MATE3S, Hub4 and
                    the usual accoutrements.  If he wants to go with
                    LFPs, what are your suggestions – and also how might
                    it integrate with his 3-year old inverter?  I
                    suspect he will be unwilling to spend a chunk of
                    change on a new inverter.  All advice is welcome!</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
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                  <p>Chris Daum</p>
                  <p>Oasis Montana Inc.</p>
                  <p>406-777-4309 </p>
                  <p>406-777-4309 fax</p>
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