<div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">We saw one APSMART fail. It was a dual-module unit. </div><div dir="auto"> it failed In the closed position. At the inverter, the voltage we measured was 2 modules in series plus the RSD safety voltage for the rest of the string. </div></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 9:54 AM Tyrone Houck via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"><div>Has anybody had any failures of APSmart RSD-S-PLC's? I asked this before and got no responses. I have had no issues myself and they seem consistent and straightforward.</div><div><br></div><div><br> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 20, 2025, 9:06 AM David Buckner via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<span role="presentation" style="font-weight:bolder;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Overheating and fire:</span> Multiple sources, including court documents, describe Tigo RSDs that showed signs of extreme overheating, melting, or being completely incinerated.</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;margin:0px 0px 12px;list-style-position:initial;list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<span role="presentation" style="font-weight:bolder;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Legal action:</span> A lawsuit was filed against Tigo Energy alleging their RSDs posed a clear threat of death, injury, and property damage, with plaintiffs shutting down their own systems as a result.</li></ul>
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<span style="font-weight:bolder;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Systemic problems:</span> Some reports suggest that failures are not isolated, with multiple devices failing across different projects. </div>
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<span role="presentation" style="font-weight:bolder;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Allegations of a cover-up:</span> The aforementioned lawsuit includes claims that Tigo was aware of risks and failed to adequately warn customers, suggesting a cover-up was in progress,
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Thursday, November 20, 2025 11:32 AM<br>
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Tigo TS4-A-F</font>
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We have a multitude of these same issues with the TS40-A-F. We followed every new guideline from Tigo in order to avoid corrupted signals but still had issues. After a hot breezy day in NJ last year caused a Tigo failure to spread the roof caught on fire
and caused millions in damage. Thankfully no one was injured. We spent the rest of 2024 pulling 6 MW's of Tigos off of other roofs for this customer. I have heard multiple stories of similar issues for many very experienced installers.</div>
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> on behalf of Nick Lucchese via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
<b style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 19, 2025 12:11 PM<br>
<b style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">To:</b> <a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" rel="noreferrer" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a> <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" rel="noreferrer" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>>; RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Appears that Zonna still has quite a few in stock. Feeling foolish to purchase more after having a TS4-2F fail into a pile of molten plastic and ruin a 405 watt bifacial module that I can no longer find a replacement for. What other
options do we have for small DC coupled arrays on residential rooftops though? Not the most inspiring times to be installing rooftop PV. Hopefully I'll start having better luck with the single module units. Numerous times I've had units become bricked and
not pass module voltage but this is the first time I've had this type of catastrophic failure that also inconveniently cost me the module.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 7:10 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches <<a id="m_4475415596622976107m_-5588554103278623890m_3239949052607794366m_-4726670821542946219OWA8c507c37-2548-2c0d-e50c-a1bd2f45ca9e" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">I am having trouble locating these RSDs. Very few vendors appear to have these and I can’t get any to call back and verify they have them. I can’t
get Tigo to return my calls. Does anyone know if these are discontinued?</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">What are the rest of you doing for rapid shutdown? I don’t trust Alps: I have heard too many horror stories. It seems the form factor is too small
to contain arc suppression measures.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Somewhere I saw as an alternative the Tigo TS4-A-O. These are optimizers. I worry these will fight with the MPPT algorithm in the inverter or charge
controller. There is also the TS4-A-S which has shutdown and monitoring.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">All input is welcome an appreciated. Thanks in advance.</span></p>
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