<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Dave - </div><div><br></div><div>We have a decent sized fleet of systems with both microinverters and string inverters. For the microinverter systems, most of them are SunPower ACPV with the micro built in at the factory. Annual production on these sites is consistently 7% over PVWatts simulations and often hitting 15% or 20% over our estimates year after year. Starting a few years ago, we started introducing Tesla PV inverters with non-SunPower modules. Production on these sites on average seems a bit lower, more like a couple percent higher than what PVWatts simulations show. We've changed two variables - the modules are not SunPower and we switched to string inverters, so it is hard to pinpoint the exact causes of annual performance reduction. You might find this Tesla whitepaper interesting regardless of whether you install Tesla or not. There is a trend to add more MPPTs with lower input voltages - this adds a lot of design flexibility to deal with shade, differing roof orientations, module mismatch or uneven soiling, and even different module types on one inverter.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/Tesla_Solar_Inverter_Architecture_White_Paper_NA-EN_12212022">https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/Tesla_Solar_Inverter_Architecture_White_Paper_NA-EN_12212022</a></div><div><br></div><div>My current take on it is that micros probably do produce more per DC watt on average, especially for heavily shaded roofs. Is the increased cost worth it? That is the question. Long term system reliability is perhaps more important of a factor. </div><div><br></div><div>August</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><br></p></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 10:35 AM Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi All, </div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone have any real world data comparing the efficiency of microinverters vs. string inverters in a partial shading scenario? We all know the old selling point of micros with partial shading, saying that if one panel in a string is shaded, you lose production from the whole string. But that is not the case anymore with at least SMA inverters with their global MPPT sweeps. If one panel is shaded, you lose the voltage from that one panel, and that is it, the rest of the string operates normally. In this case, it seems like micros don't actually add much value in a partially shaded system. </div><div><br></div><div>I am thinking specifically of something like a fixed tilt ground mount that will be getting somewhere near 70% TSRF. So there are no issues about modules facing different directions. I am curious if there are actually any significant differences in power production with a microinverter vs a string inverter system in this case. Unfortunately, any article written about this subject assumes using an older string inverter where one panel being shaded will knock out the whole string, in which case the answer is pretty clear.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div>Dave</div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-spacing:0px;border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(68,68,68);width:525px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td width="125" valign="top" rowspan="6" style="padding:0px 10px 0px 0px;font-size:10pt;border-right:1px solid rgb(236,189,0);width:125px;vertical-align:top"><a href="https://www.sungineersolar.com/" style="color:rgb(51,122,183);background-color:transparent" target="_blank"><img border="0" alt="Logo" width="105" src="https://sungineersolar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Logo-Image-Only-1.png" style="border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 105px; height: auto;"></a></td><td style="padding:0px 0px 0px 10px"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-spacing:0px;border-collapse:collapse;background-color:transparent"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:0px 0px 5px 10px;width:400px;vertical-align:top"><span style="color:rgb(236,189,0);font-size:11pt;font-weight:700">Dave Tedeyan, P.E.<br></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-weight:700"><font color="#ecbd00">Owner | Sungineer Solar</font><br></span></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:5px 0px 5px 10px;font-size:10pt;vertical-align:top;line-height:17px"><span style="color:rgb(236,189,0)"><span style="font-weight:700">p: </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">he | him | his</span><span style="color:rgb(236,189,0)"><span style="font-weight:700"><br>a: </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">1653 Slaterville Rd.</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">| Ithaca, NY 14850</span><br><span style="color:rgb(236,189,0)"><span style="font-weight:700">w:</span></span><a href="http://www.sungineersolar.com/" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(51,122,183);background-color:transparent" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> www.sungineersolar.com</span></a><br><span style="color:rgb(236,189,0)"><span style="font-weight:700">c:</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> (607) 270-0370</span></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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