<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div>I love the idea of the Shelly for monitoring. That could be the solution.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can't do plug-in because I need to get a permit and inspection to get the interconnection agreement processed. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 25, 2025, 12:26 PM Glenn <<a href="mailto:glenn.burt@glbcc.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">glenn.burt@glbcc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Have you seen the ads for the new plug in the wall PV panels? Apparently they are common in Europe and are working their way here.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do the new generation of microinverters require a gateway now? I have a couple of panels running off m250s for years with no direct monitoring. I do have a Sense monitor on my house and can see it's effect on my usage.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you can use a current micro without the gateway, a company called Shelly sells inexpensive DIN rail power monitors with wifi and BT connection</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">-Glenn</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 25, 2025 12:13, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Okay, this is going to be a strange question. I'm looking for the lowest cost way to install a single solar panel and inverter that is grid tied. i need it to be grid-tied and it needs to be monitored in some way. I'm thinking a microinverter is the way to go, but I don't want to buy a $600 Enphase Gateway to make it happen.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since someone is probably going to ask, I will go ahead and explain. A local utility company has a top marginal residential energy use rate of about 15 cents per kWh. The first and second 500 kWh monthly are billed at a slightly lower rate. However, when you enter into a netmetering agreement, the switch you to a "blended" rate, which is currently 9 cents per kWh, regardless of what you net energy use ends up being. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You might see where I'm going here. Installing a single netmetered panel reduces a customer's marginal rate by 6 cents a kWh. This could be a substantial savings, particularly for heavy energy users. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>I have people interested, for obvious reasons. </div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Szumlanski</div><div dir="auto">Florida Solar Design Group </div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><b><div style="text-align:center"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-weight:400;font-family:'helvetica neue','helvetica','arial',sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2"><br></td><td rowspan="2"></td></tr></tbody></table></div></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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