
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">With the ATS, the generator is supplied utility power not only to keep the starter battery charged but when the gen in “auto” it is sensing the utility power and when that goes away, actuates the start cycle.<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 2, 2025, at 12:39 PM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Generac makes a 2-wire conversion kit, but it's for newer models than the one I'm stuck with unfortunately.</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 12:35 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">One Generac I worked on needed a module to convert to two wire start. Plus there was some programming. <br clear="all" class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><br class="">William Miller<br class="">Miller <a href="http://solar.com/" class="">Solar.com</a><br class="">805-438-5600<br class=""><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.millersolar.com</a><br class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 9:23 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hello folks,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">This Generac belongs to an old customer. He picked it up used. Runs good, but apparently was used w/ an ATS, which is no longer present.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">No doc's, no labels to identify model.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">But I have set up a remote start in a similar model 20+ years ago.w/o the ATS, just can't remember how. Terminals 23 & 194 connect to the ATS contactor coil to change state when it starts, I just can't remember the <i class="">easy</i> way to initiate the start command itself. There don't appear to be additional terminals for a dedicated start signal.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">The red and black wires come from inverter AC to keep battery trickle charger energized, etc. I wonder if simulating loss of this AC, with genny control switch in auto mode, would initiate the run cycle. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">In the meantime, any insights from my fellow old-timers (new ones welcome, too)? Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><img alt="image.png" style="max-width: 100%;" class="" apple-inline="yes" id="810C08C0-6BDD-4010-9B61-A2E3BE21381B" src="cid:ii_mg9loddq0"><br class=""></div><br clear="all" class=""></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I've worked on this mo</div><br class=""></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><a name="m_5064982527159162724_m_-2234353202299860973_SignatureSanitizer__MailAutoSig" style="font-size:10pt" class=""><b class=""><img width="96" height="72" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zIGox3hmaGW8StlnANQvRdXBrTEgpee6ZmV_8h-pfWcEl7lwlqfhSqd2PgPh89cgzwpzfUzuuIGxKE" class=""><br class=""></b></a></div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""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