<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I thought of that, but vaguely remember something easier.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 12:28 PM Foxfire Energy via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg4882193713623583480">




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Not sure if I might be talking apples and pickles here, but I seem to recall faking out early Generacs to two wire start by setting up a DPDT relay in parallel with the onboard rocker switch.</div>
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<div id="m_4882193713623583480divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> on behalf of Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kirk Herander <kirkh@vermont.solar><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] need to set up an older generac remote start circuit</font>
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<div style="font-size:large">This Generac belongs to an old customer. He picked it up used. Runs good, but apparently was used w/ an ATS, which is no longer present.</div>
<div style="font-size:large">No doc's, no labels to identify model.</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">But I have set up a remote start in a similar model 20+ years ago.w/o the ATS, just can't remember how. Terminals 23 & 194 connect to the ATS contactor coil to change state when it starts, I just can't remember
 the <i>easy</i> way to initiate the start command itself. There don't appear to be additional terminals for a dedicated start signal.</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">The red and black wires come from inverter AC to keep battery trickle charger energized, etc. I wonder if simulating loss of this AC, with genny control switch in auto mode, would initiate the run cycle. </div>
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<div style="font-size:large">In the meantime, any insights from my fellow old-timers (new ones welcome, too)? Thanks.</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">I've worked on this mo</div>
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