<font face="georgia" size="4"><p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: georgia; font-size: 14pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">It is also important (as Chris points out) to notice if the "walk" matches the "talk". This is not "<em>conjecture"</em>, this is actual experience!<br /><br />A great example of this is lack of collaborative information towards the wrenches & users in the OB forum. FFS I had to get info on whether they were actually aware of and working on the multiple recent OpticsRE/ Mate3s problems from facebook and post that to their own users forum! <br /><br />How is this an example of <em>"having the industries best interests at heart"</em>???<br /><br />This behavior causes the speculation we are justifiably seeing and removes any trust we have in the new owner(s), which of course dissuades wrenches from recommending/ building OB based systems for customers. <br /><br />Regardless of the rhetoric, once trust is violated, it is very difficult to rebuild.<br /><br />And I'm sorry, but if the new head of Outback/ EG4 is "kissing the ring"... that says a whole lot about his ethics, morals and business practices.<br /><br />Todd<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
<p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: georgia; font-size: 14pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">On Thursday, August 7, 2025 6:22am, "Chris Daum via RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> said:<br /><br /></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">On Aug 4, 2025, at 1:21 PM, Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">On Aug 2, 2025, at 12:52 PM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">On Aug 2, 2025, at 11:15 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</span></span></p>
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