<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Having consulted for EG4 all I can say is you are all way off in your conjectures.  James and his team have the industry’s best interests at heart.<div><br></div><div>Anymore is only appropriate to discuss off list. Conjecture without direct knowledge often results in unnecessary harm and projection of our fear rather than useful sense making.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe the List has ethical standards that we should follow here. </div><div><br></div><div>May we all work together to continue to build on all the great cooperative work we’ve done to uplift the solar industry over the years. </div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Clearwater</div><div>Village Power Design</div><div>Since 1996</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 4, 2025, at 11:58 AM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style>@font-face { font-family: Helvetica; }
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div.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1; }</style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Friends:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">One explanation is possibly that James Showalter wants to quietly remove a well-respected, competing product from the market.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">William</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">PS:  It is more than a bit off-putting that EG4 chose to post a <a href="https://eg4electronics.com/energy-access-innovations-powers-americas-future-with-new-texas-facility/">note</a> kissing up to DJT.  I’m suddenly way less anxious to give EG4 a try.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">WM</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/">www.millersolar.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 4, 2025 11:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Cc:</b> Maverick Brown; RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] OUTBACK power</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">James Showalter</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Founder of EG4 Electronics, Signature Solar and partner in buying Outback from Alpha / Entersys. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="525" style="width:225.0pt;background:#e9e9eb;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="300" style="width:128.55pt;background:#e9e9eb"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:6.0pt 0in 6.0pt 0in"><div style="margin-left:12.0pt;margin-right:12.0pt;max-width:100%;overflow:hidden"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-showalter-9a0599156"><span style="color:#a2a2a9;text-decoration:none">linkedin.com</span></a></span></b></p></div></td><td width="32" style="width:13.7pt;padding:0in 9.0pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-showalter-9a0599156"></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://eg4electronics.com/meet-james-showalter-founder-of-eg4-electronics/">https://eg4electronics.com/meet-james-showalter-founder-of-eg4-electronics/</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">He ran a solar installation business and then switched gears. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">That’s about all I know. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Maverick</p></div><div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Maverick Brown<br>Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br>Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br> • Solar Commander Remote Power<br> • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br><a href="mailto:maverick@mavericksolar.com">maverick@mavericksolar.com</a><br>512-460-9825</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 4, 2025, at 1:21 PM, Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Who is James ( I assume a partner of Signature Solar) and what is his background?</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Christopher</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 4:23 PM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I checked on a few websites and some do have some items. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I wonder if they bought it for the military contracts and the retail they don’t really care about. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Because EG4 and signature solar and big battery all know how to market and sell and make new good products. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">One thing I heard was they bought it to  sell lithium batteries to legacy Outback people.  I guess that they would make some changes to the mate to communicate with their batteries. Which made sense maybe?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully someone will spill the info at somepoint because it’s weird </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I could  see myself buying any OB products as replacement maybe but for a new project, seems unlikely. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 2, 2025, at 12:52 PM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""></span>I do wonder what the real reason is that James bought outback and he also invented flex boss and grid boss. The Outback transition has languished uninformed to Wrenches and even to the DIY community. </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just like the Gudgel boys, James has also shaped the industry in the new transition to the next era. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">After 20 years in the solar/battery business we built a homestead from the ground up in 2017 and the main inverter was a single Radian at the house and the outbuildings all had used XW inverters. I always thought I’d switch them to Radian  One of the XWs died after over tens years of service. I replaced it with a Fortress Envy 12k. I guess if I have another failure here, that’s what I’ll get. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Always open to customers wishes and have installed just about every inverter that’s ever been made installed from Tucson to Tucumcari ;-) but mostly in Texas. But, I’m Willin’ to work on the next best thing. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Maverick</p></div><div><div id="m_4886392131722748060AppleMailSignature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Maverick Brown<br>Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br>Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br> • Solar Commander Remote Power<br> • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br><a href="mailto:maverick@mavericksolar.com" target="_blank">maverick@mavericksolar.com</a><br>512-460-9825</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 2, 2025, at 11:15 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The question I have is, if they come back, would you trust them again? It would take a lot to convince me.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Jason Szumlanski</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#333333">Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group<br>NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)<br>Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Roboto;color:#333333">Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208</span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 11:30 AM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Any word on whether OUTBACK power is coming back to life or they just died.?<br>I sure miss the products personally, not to mention my whole system is OUTBACK<br>Dana Orzel - <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank">dana@solarwork.com</a> - 208.721.7003<br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:<br><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/" target="_blank">https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/</a><br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></p></blockquote></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:<br><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/" target="_blank">https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/</a><br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List Address: <a href="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