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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="#000000" vlink="#000000"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thank you.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The SnapNRack suggested methods:  Poured footings, bond beam or screw-in anchor.  The system I created is demonstrably superior to these methods.  It is quicker, cheaper, has less environmental impacts and can adapt better to uneven ground.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Wm</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/"><u><span style="color:blue">www.millersolar.com</span></u></a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar [mailto:<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 25, 2025 4:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a>; RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Permitting problem</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div id="signature"><pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Nice install in the link!<br><br></span></pre><p class="v1msonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">"However for this project I am being denied a permit with this reason:  By not using one of SnapNRack's suggested support structures I am "altering" the "racking kit."  I am told if I provide a structural analysis a permit will be approved."</span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333"></span></p><p class="v1msonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333"> </span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333"></span></p><pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">What is snapnracks support structure that you are not using?</span></pre><pre><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar</span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">"we go where powerlines don't"</span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/">  </a><a href="https://offgridsolar1.com/"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";background:white;font-weight:normal">https://offgridsolar1.com/</span></a><a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/"> </a></span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">e-mail  <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a></span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">text 209 813 0060</span></strong></pre></div><p><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p id="reply-intro"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">On 2025-06-25 3:59 pm, William Miller via RE-wrenches wrote:</span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010ff 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in"><div id="replybody1"><div><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Friends:</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I am having a problem pulling a permit in our county jurisdiction. The project is a ground mount array with a low tilt angle resulting in an overall rack height less than 6'.  The county checklist for solar permits says: "Engineering is required for arrays exceeding six feet above adjacent grade."  I wanted to make sure this was the current criteria so I emailed a senior building official before I submitted my plans and received a reply stating the same criteria.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I have done jobs in the county in the past with the same low height and not been required to provide engineering.  The system we use is pretty robust.  You can see a description <a href="https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/DrivenPipe/DrivenPipe.html" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">here</span></u></a>.  The rail is SnapNRack 200 series.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">However for this project I am being denied a permit with this reason:  By not using one of SnapNRack's suggested support structures I am "altering" the "racking kit."  I am told if I provide a structural analysis a permit will be approved.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The SnapNRack web site says this on the subject:  "The system is fully compatible with various foundation types, including</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ground screws, grade beams, and standard pier concrete foundations."  We all know that the word "including" does not preclude other possibilities.  I even got one of the SnapNRack engineers to write an email saying alternative support structures are allowed.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I have worked up the entire chain of command in San Luis Obispo County including the department director and the office of County Counsel with no change in status.  I filed an appeal but the county refused to hear the appeal.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I called my county supervisor to intervene but the building department is giving them the same reason.  The logic is flawed but no one will believe me in spite of the documentation I have provided.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Last time we had one of these taller than 6 feet the we had it engineered at a cost of $5,000.  My contract covers me for the extra expense so the cost would be to the client.  I don't believe it is right for the customer to have to pay this extra expense.  They are decent people who deserve better.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I put together a web page to describe the entire interaction.  It is <a href="https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/case_studies/41_County_of_SLO/County_of_SLO.html" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">here</span></u></a>.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I think this is wrong and my principals are not allowing me to give in.  This is a pattern with this building department.  The last time this happened I fought for months and finally won.  I embarrassed them and I think the department is trying to punish me.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I am looking for an attorney but so far all of them are too busy to take my case.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Have anyone of you experienced anything like this? Anyone have any advice?</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Thanks in advance.</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">William Miller</span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Miller Solar</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">805-438-5600</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">www.millersolar.com</span></u></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">CA Lic. 773985</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">http://re-wrenches.org</span></u></a><br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><u><span style="color:blue">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></u></a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</span></u></a><br><br>There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:<br><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/</span></u></a><br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</span></u></a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</span></u></a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">http://www.members.re-wrenches.org</span></u></a></span></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>