<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">That may be, however it seems from my measuring the efficiency is way higher than the fm-100 those things get wicked hot( losses). And the conversion factor within the inverter from PV to Ac is much higher. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 25, 2025, at 7:29 AM, James Jarvis via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>The standby power consumption of one of those inverters is going to be a lot more than three FM100 controllers.</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>-James Jefferson Jarvis<br>APRS World, LLC<br>+1-507-454-2727<br></div><a href="http://www.aprsworld.com/" target="_blank">http://www.aprsworld.com/</a><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 8:06 AM Blair May via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">I too am NOT excited about the AIO, seems like for off grid clients its a nightmare waiting to happen. Sol Ark ….running all your individual strings back to the inverter is to say the least a pain, w/ new systems but old upgrades? Victron does have Hi voltage & Hi current CCs as well as other Manus. All the BOS for replacing older CCs is already on the wall.<div>Needless to say this white head still prefers redundancy. Tump</div><div><div> <br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 25, 2025, at 1:30 AM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Times-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Friends:</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I need three FM100 charge controllers but it seems no one has them. It has occurred to me that for not much more than the cost of 3 FM100s I can buy a Fortress Envy 12K inverter and it will have the capability of 3 FM100s plus 12 kW of inverter plus compatibility with the existing Unigy battery bank plus future compatibility with Lithium batteries. The same applies for the Sol-Arc, and the Midnight AIO and probably others. </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Since my first Radio Shack separate amp and tuner, I have always favored a component approach to systems. With Outback apparently circling the drain or generally being unavailable, I am starting the see the appeal of the new AIO inverters. The AIOs have a wide voltage range on the MPPT inputs making stringing less problematic. <span> </span></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I ordered a Sol-Arc 12K for my property to load shift and solve my NEM3 dilemma. 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