<p dir="ltr">Wrenches, so here is what l have done seems to work well back up lamp attached to the backed up loads and to the same line not backed up, so when the grid is up lamp is powered on both sides but when the utility fails the lamp has a path to neutral, a 35 watt lamp leaves nothing on the neutral that is connected in the utility transformer. l also have indicators from the genny so you can see without hearing. <br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 5:49 AM Blair May via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Have a look at these relay combinations. Relay in a box @ <a href="http://www.functionaldevices.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">www.functionaldevices.com</a>. Easy install, its what I use to let me know if the grid is connected. T <div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 27, 2025, at 10:08 PM, Corey Shalanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Nicholas,</div><div><br></div><div>Related to Richard's suggestion, please see the attached diagram. This was posted previously to the message board (back in the early 2010s?)—but, for the life of me, I cannot track down the original message in the archives...</div><div><br></div><div>Corey Shalanski</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:09 AM Richard Scott <<a href="mailto:cheezemanrich@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">cheezemanrich@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>How about a relay powered by the AC grid with SPDT contact configuration. </div><div>Use normally closed contacts to close a circuit turning on a lamp or other device powered off the backup AC power.</div><div>When the AC grid goes down, the relay de-energizes and closes the normally closed contacts thereby turning on the indicator device.</div><div><br></div><div>Richard</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 9:18 AM Nicholas Ponzio via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Esteemed Wrenches,</div><div><br></div><div>This issue arises periodically, and I'm hopeful someone in the group has devised a cost-effective, low-power solution.</div><div><br></div><div>For a whole-home backup system, how can we best alert homeowners that they are operating on battery power? These homeowners do not use smartphones and won't receive push notifications. Is there a simple solution to activate a single light or audible alarm exclusively when the grid is down? This particular instance involves a FranklinWH system, but the same challenge applies to any battery with a whole-home backup and "instant-on" transfer switch. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you in advance for your insights.</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div>Nicholas Ponzio </div><div>Building Energy</div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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