<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks, Darryl... I'm not that smart, If I were I'd be retired by now!!! <br><br>I'm just relating what I've seen over the past three decades... <br><br></div><div><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 8:35 AM Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">Would you be able to do this with the Morningstar relay driver? The relay closes and starts the generator when the battery voltage reaches a certain level. The following is an inferior idea; use an Egauge in particular if you want to do other monitoring, and have the Egauge with a relay driver close the generator start switch. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">Also, pay attention to Steve Higgens Ideas </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:08 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I have been thinking a lot recently about the reasons off-grid systems can shut down, and working on strategies to prevent these nuisances that require manual intervention.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ideally, a BMS should never shut down due to low voltage/SOC because a properly programmed inverter should reach it's cut off well before the BMS decides it needs to protect the battery, especially where there is closed loop communication. But let's say that happens, where the BMS does make the DC battery output go to zero.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It seems to me like the inverter should be able to start a generator, and then signal to the BMS that a charging source is available. But I'm not aware of any system that actually does this. The inverter should be able to wake up the battery. I can see this being particularly possible where one manufacturer is writing the code (I'm thinking Midnite AIO/Powerflo).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course, the inverter would have to have power in order to do that, so if it's nighttime and there is no PV, the inverter power would need to come from somewhere. I have two thoughts. First, someone could manually start the generator, waking up the inverter, but they would not have to reset the BMS if the inverter told it to wake up. The second way would be for the inverter to somehow close the 2-wire start circuit upon inverter shutdown, restoring power to the inverter automatically. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If those are not options, an external NO relay powered by the inverter output could be added to the 2-wire start circuit, perhaps with a time delay to return to the NO position to allow the generator to remain powered until the inverter does it's thing and starts charging the batteries.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Anyway, my question is whether any inverter/battery combination out there works in a way that the inverter tells the battery there is a charging source available to wake up the BMS and reconnect DC power. And if not, why?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jason Szumlanski </div><div dir="auto">Florida Solar Design Group </div></div>
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