<div dir="ltr">Oh, I just looked to see if the FireRaptor is still somewhat pricey, and it looks like they might be hard to find if available at all. The only source I found had them for double the price they used to be from OutBack. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 7:44 AM Bradley Bassett <<a href="mailto:bbassett2@gmail.com">bbassett2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You asked... the IMO FireRaptors I've installed seem to be completely reliable since they have their own separate 24VDC activation circuit. I do kind of like that the circuits are dead while working on them, but the extra wiring is of course more work. There is a huge amount of wire mgmt to do since the leads are all 6ft long, both the PV output circuits and the 24VDC activation circuits. Best is the fact that they work on ANY charge control or inverter. With older modules like my REC260's you can put two modules per FireRaptor. <div><br></div><div>It would be fine by me if RSD was no longer a requirement. </div><div>Doesn't Tesla have a UL listing for array level RSD now?<div>BTW the AP smart does not work with Classic charge controllers. </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 6:07 AM david quattro via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">RSD is the worst thing to happen to solar. Has anyone considered civil disobedience?</div><div dir="auto">    I wonder what would happen if all the installers banded together and refused, as a united industry ‘brotherhood.’ WE are the ones stuck with the bullshit in the aftermath.</div><div dir="auto">     I’m not being snarky here , this a genuine question to the group:   Does anyone have <u>good</u> experience with RSD?   i.e. you’re really glad RSD was there, and you genuinely feel safer?  you’re glad and happy to comply with this code and you look forward to continuing to use RSD for the rest of your career?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 3:40 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>it seems silly that we are required to install these extra pieces
      of equipment for added "safety", that are actually a fire hazard
      on the roof.  Just to survey again: how many homes have been saved
      by RSD?  How many fire fighters have actually actuated the RSD
      system, so that they could hack through the array to vent the
      roof?  <br>
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    <p>I think it should only be required if you have covered so much of
      the roof with PV, that the fire dept can't access uncovered roof
      to do their venting.  The whole premise of RSD is flawed.  IMHO,
      its just another effort to block the wider adoption of solar.   </p>
    <p>When it comes to off grid, RSD causes such a decrease in
      reliability to amount to a decrease in safety, due to possible
      loss of communications, water, and heat.  Add the fire hazard and
      RSD is really not making our customers' lives better. <br>
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    <p>Ray Walters<br>
      Remote Solar<br>
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                and they exhibited the exact same burn characteristics.
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                    Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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                  <span style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Florida
                    State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956</span></div>
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                  Yes, it's the TS4-F units.  We have made every effort
                  to install to the specs provided (as the goal post and
                  solutions keep changing) but have still seen RSD's
                  start to swell and/or burn over time.  We've separated
                  DC wires and home runs and stayed within the home run
                  complete circuit distance that is recommended.  We've
                  used the "Pure Signal" transmitter solution that syncs
                  up the signaling from multiple inverters in an effort
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                  It's all field R&D at our expense in my opinion. 
                  Sadly, I'd be happy if the RSD failed and didn't work
                  but it starts to work in overdrive until it burns up
                  and causes an arc.  These photos below are from a site
                  where we got lucky and the fire didn't spread.  Below
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                  Here is a video discussion of the cross-talk and
                  signal corruption issues that are the supposed cause
                  of the unit's failure's: 
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                    on behalf of Nick Lucchese via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
                    <b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2025 1:26 PM<br>
                    <b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
                    <b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cc:</b> Nick Lucchese <<a href="mailto:lucchesesolar@gmail.com" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" target="_blank">lucchesesolar@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    <b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Tigo inverter
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                    <div dir="ltr">Greetings David,
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                      <div>Can you elaborate on which products of theirs
                        failed catastrophically? Their TS4-F single and
                        double units by chance? My experience has been
                        an annoying occurrence where certain installed
                        units lock up requring replacement after the
                        array is shut down for O&M tasks but nothing
                        that starts burning as you mentioned. I've still
                        got a reasonable amount of them in my inventory
                        but would rather not deploy if they're "burning"
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                      <div>Thanks for sharing your experience, Nick</div>
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                        <div><i>We've had catastrophic failures with the
                            RSDs and have heard from plenty of others
                            that have had the same.  The company denies
                            and deflects and blames the installer until
                            you are fatigued.  A product that uses power
                            line communication that can start burning
                            when the signal gets corrupted should not be
                            allowed to remain on the market.</i></div>
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                        <div><i>David Buckner</i></div>
                        <div><i>SES</i></div>
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                      <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 6:06 PM
                        David Buckner via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>
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                          <div>We've had catastrophic failures with the
                            RSDs and have heard from plenty of others
                            that have had the same.  The company denies
                            and deflects and blames the installer until
                            you are fatigued.  A product that uses power
                            line communication that can start burning
                            when the signal gets corrupted should not be
                            allowed to remain on the market.</div>
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                          <div>SES</div>
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                                                          <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(87,101,118)">David Buckner<span style="font-family:remialcxesans;font-size:1px;line-height:1px;color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:template-uhk2k-LWEe6q8GBFvdVbFg"></span><span style="font-family:zone-1"></span><span style="font-family:zones-AQ"></span></span></p>
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                                  <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I do not have a lot of experience
                                    with Tigo equipment, almost all
                                    using their optimizers with CCAs and
                                    TAPs.  The 2 things I can say is
                                    after getting my head wrapped around
                                    the setup and commissioning process
                                    (which is not the most intuitive
                                    process), I haven't had much trouble
                                    with them (again only have maybe 4
                                    or 5 systems out there), and their
                                    tech support is generally very
                                    available and very knowledgeable and
                                    helpful, impressively so. Otherwise
                                    I can't speak much to their
                                    durability, reliability, or
                                    functionality.</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at
                                  6:50 PM Vince McClellan via
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                                    <div>Hi Dave</div>
                                    <div>I haven't tried their micro
                                      inverter or ESS, but so far all
                                      the products that I've used from
                                      Tigo including the RSD switches
                                      that melted have been problematic.
                                      Personally, I wouldn't use their
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                                    <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 6, 2025
                                      at 10:53 AM Dave Tedeyan via
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                                          <div>I am curious if anyone
                                            has any experience with the
                                            Tigo inverter and energy
                                            storage system. It looks
                                            very similar to the SMA
                                            setup, but maybe a bit
                                            farther along in
                                            development. Even as just a
                                            simple string inverter, it
                                            seems fairly reasonably
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