<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Here in NM the main utility will not allow a zero sell installation, period. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Some heavy hitters have been trying to get it allowed, but so far haven’t been successful. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hence my asking what the rules are in other places. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thx</div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 11, 2025, at 3:37 PM, James Jarvis via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>The interesting thing to me is that a ton of industrial equipment has regenerative braking that puts power back "on the grid". Lots of things with a frequency drive and a motor that stops has been built this way for 30 years. Things that stop like CNC machines and elevators. Pretty much anything that stops quickly and doesn't have a big braking resistor on it just pumps the power back to the AC side.</div><div><br></div><div>In 20 years of owning and running industrial facilities, no utility has ever once had any concern about that.</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>-James Jefferson Jarvis<br>APRS World, LLC<br>+1-507-454-2727<br></div><a href="http://www.aprsworld.com/" target="_blank">http://www.aprsworld.com/</a><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 4:18 PM Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">The utility here in Montana requires any small-generator facility to have an interconnection agreement with them. A standard net-metered agreement is called a Level 1 Agreement and a non-export system falls into their Level 3 Agreement. The relevant text from that agreement is as follows:<br><br><i>The... requirements are designed to ensure that the Small Generator Facility... are designed to prevent back-feeding of power from the generating facility to the utility grid during power outages, and to match... power characteristics with respect to voltage and frequency.</i> <div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Sam</div><div><br></div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family:Montserrat,Tahoma,sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0px 10px 0px 0px;vertical-align:top"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://onsiteenergyinc.com/&source=gmail-html&ust=1677085494759000&usg=AOvVaw2NN36GoM1sjnS4RdC8Svt-" rel="noreferrer" style="border:none" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/4xVVZ5jT/email-logo.png" alt="OnSite Energy" align="top" width="85" height="85" style="display: block;" data-unique-identifier=""></a></td><td style="padding:0px;vertical-align:top"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding:0px;vertical-align:bottom"><div color="#514ca0" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(81,76,160);font-size:11pt;font-weight:600;text-transform:uppercase">SAM HARALDSON <span style="font-size:8pt"> </span></div></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:0px 5px 0px 0px;vertical-align:bottom"><div color="#f9a145" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(249,161,69);font-size:9pt">Operations Specialist</div><div color="#514ca0" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(81,76,160);font-size:7pt;line-height:8pt">(406) 551-6135<br></div><div color="#514ca0" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(81,76,160);font-size:7pt;line-height:8pt">1515 N. Rouse Ave Bozeman, MT 59715</div><div color="#f9a145" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(249,161,69);font-size:7pt;line-height:9pt">Locally owned and operated since 2012</div></td><td style="padding:0px;vertical-align:bottom"><a href="https://onsiteenergyinc.com/bcorp" rel="noreferrer" style="border:none" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/2y1LtFnM/email-bcorp.png" alt="B Corporation" width="22" height="33" align="bottom" hspace="2" vspace="2" style="display: block;" data-unique-identifier=""></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div>
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