<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi All<div><br></div><div>Im wondering about a few things as we are talking batteries.</div><div><br></div><div>1. how do people feel about the amphenol battery connector vs lugs? A lot of batteries are going that way. Lots to like about them. </div><div><br></div><div>2. battery cable lengths. I see both things said, that they have to be the same length or doesn’t matter. </div><div>I did a large fortress system that they wouldn’t warranty unless equal lengths. Mind you, it would have added about 200’ of 4/0. I convinced them by using different wire sizes to make the % VD the same and they agreed. </div><div><br></div><div>3. battery lifting attachment points. 300# is really heavy and is it actually more than 2 people can do via OSHA?</div><div>What about some threaded holes for lifting rings, or places for straps on the side?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 3, 2025, at 10:27 AM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto">Bill<div><br></div><div>So far I have installed eight of the midnight power flow 16 batteries. </div><div><br></div><div>The most recent was three on an Outback Radian. </div><div><br></div><div>I documented that process here, even with settings. </div><div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; 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I basically treat all 16s LiFePO4 batteries the same, Absorb at 3.45 per cell and everything trickles down from their. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><img alt="Battery SOC State of Charge Map 2025-01-22.pdf" src="blob:applewebdata://50c64a4a-c7ea-4b72-8770-5d65cbb7470c/4646f67a-7876-403e-b869-d8973c5713bf"></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Thank you,<div><br></div><div>Maverick</div><div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><div><br></div><div>Maverick Brown<br>Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br>Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br> • Solar Commander Remote Power<br> • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br>maverick@mavericksolar.com<br>512-460-9825</div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 2, 2025, at 10:52 PM, Bill Battagin via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>Have any off-gridders done a system with Powerflo16's to power pre-LFP OB/FX inverters? The FM80's LFP settings in this system are compatible with LFP but I'm looking for options other than using the Aux in the CC's wired to a NC relay and from there to the inverter on/off landings in the green terminal of the OB/FX for the LBCO and reconnect function.</span><br><span></span><br><span> I've been down this road before, though a different equipment. I've used the Aux from a Classic for inverter LBCO and reconnect though its never been fully "tested", although I read "open" and closed" at the un-wired aux landing when I forced it with a high LBCO setting. Just thinking about the highest reliability.</span><br><span></span><br><span> Thanks in advance.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Bill</span><br><span></span><br><span>Feather River Solar Electric</span><br><span>Bill Battagin, owner</span><br><span>4291 Nelson St. (Shipping)</span><br><span>5575 Genesee Rd. (USPS, UPS)</span><br><span>Taylorsville, CA 95983</span><br><span>530-284-7849, 258-1641(cell)</span><br><span>CA. 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