<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Hi John</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">A 26 year old pump? </div><div dir="ltr">I’m going out on a limb here but I think that’s could be your issue. </div><div dir="ltr">I know that transformers make all sorts of crazy noise if the hz are not in spec. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If the pump wasn’t operating at the correct rpm ( bearings or whatever causing resistance) could that cause the issue you’re having?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Or maybe it’s some kind of harmonics again due to wear/age?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Very curious </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:05 AM, Blair May via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">John we have had quite cold temps here in maine. Have you had this issue over the summer or is this a recent issue? What is the flow rate prior to the check valve at the pressure tank? Remove it from the Check valve at the pressure tank and see if your noise goes away. You checked the basics the only thing that is a constant is the water well /pump (12 A is fine ) either w/ the T former or the grid, OR the plumbing to the tank. Removing the pipe at the pressure tank is easiest and @ -12 here is the warmest option. Tump <br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 23, 2025, at 10:43 PM, John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">The only thing I could find in the whole system that was not up to snuff was incomplete separation of neutrals and grounds in the sub-panel. In other words more than one ground to neutral bond. But the fact remains that this<div class="">system worked flawlessly for 26 years! I also removed the ground wire from the transformer but still no difference. What am I missing?</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 10:35 PM John Blittersdorf <<a href="mailto:john.blittersdorf@gmail.com" class="">john.blittersdorf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Steve, I took my scope meter today and checked wave forms at all points. All were clean sine waves. I checked the breaker connections and all connections back to the inverter and all were tight. <div class="">Voltage drop when pump kicked on was small and only about 1 volt when running. Amp were 12 on both legs.</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:48 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Are the amps leg the same?</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Jay</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jan 22, 2025, at 9:29 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">How do their clocks run? Is the Xfmer quiet down when the generator runs? <br class=""><br class="">If you have an O-scope, check the output waveform off the inverter. My guess is that the output waveform will be deformed, causing extra noise for the Xfmer. You might be able to see this on the frequency as well. It should be solid at 60Hz, but if it's drifting or way off the high side, FETS have probably failed. <br class=""><br class="">If you pull the top cover off the inverter the and you look at the FET board, it'll be the fets closest to the Fan on the AC board. <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><image.png></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Steve Higgins<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 7:32 PM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Christopher, <div class="">Update on the Transformer Humming. Installed a new PSX-240 from Kirk and it is LOUDER than the T-240 that I took out. <div class="">I have a call into the well driller to see if they have a record of the pump size or other details. When connected </div><div class="">directly to the grid via transfer switch, still loud noise... same with battery only. I did not check the 120VAC 30 amp break</div><div class="">in the backed up loads sub panel. All other wiring was redone as I switched the pump directly to the grid until I received the</div><div class="">new transformer and back to the inverter again. so all the connections were redone except the 120 breaker. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 10:30 AM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">John, <div dir="auto" class="">If you need a T240 (internal or external), I have a few used ones (and maybe a new one) in storage. </div><div dir="auto" class="">Howie</div><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2025, 10:14 AM Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I could be a loose electrical or mechanical connection. It's been <br class="">
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