<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Jay<div><br></div><div>Awe yes. </div><div><br></div><div>Well then. To properly measure a close system like that, you would need:</div><div><br></div><div>A separaty derived measurement/power system. </div><div>1. Voltage and current sensors parallel to the Grundfos pump controller. </div><div>2. Solar and battery separate from the water well.</div><div>3. See if a Bull Horn RMU can be adapted for use with the voltage and current sensors that drive the Grundfos. A voltage tap of the incoming solar and a shunt measuring the current from said solar array. </div><div>4. Might also propose a water meter that has digital accumulation of water produced. </div><div><br></div><div>I have worked with this company for produced oil, gas and cathodic protection.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;" class=""><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://www.aiworldwide.com/product/bullhorn-remote-monitoring-units-for-meters/"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:228px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.aiworldwide.com/product/bullhorn-remote-monitoring-units-for-meters/" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="228"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:228px;background-color:#C9C8CA;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="228"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center" align="center"><img style="width:228px;filter:brightness(0.97);height:235px;" width="228" height="235" draggable="false" class="lp-rich-link-mediaImage" alt="Bullhorn-RM3250-Image.png" src="cid:13DA9144-603A-4949-AFA2-3BFA4197DF39"></td></tr><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#C9C8CA" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="228" style="table-layout:fixed;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgba(201, 200, 202, 1);-apple-color-filter:initial;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px 0px 16px;overflow:hidden;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:700;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-topCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.aiworldwide.com/product/bullhorn-remote-monitoring-units-for-meters/" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#000000" style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);">Bullhorn Remote Monitoring for Meters : American Innovations</font></a></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:600;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.aiworldwide.com/product/bullhorn-remote-monitoring-units-for-meters/" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#A2A2A9" style="color: rgba(60, 60, 67, 0.6);">aiworldwide.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Thank you,<div><br></div><div>Maverick</div><div><div id="AppleMailSignature" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><div class="ApplePlainTextBody"><br></div><div class="ApplePlainTextBody">Maverick Brown<br>Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br>Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br> • Solar Commander Remote Power<br> • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br>maverick@mavericksolar.com<br>512-460-9825</div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 16, 2025, at 4:24 PM, jay <jay.peltz@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">You know I suggested that, and my buddy said, yeah well its the government they want to measure everything.<div><br></div><div>Just wasted money for data no one will ever use or see or need. ugh</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 16, 2025, at 3:22 PM, Maverick Brown <maverick@mavericksolar.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto">Jay<div><br></div><div>The best way might be to add a water meter and then back calculate the supposed energy needed. </div><div><br></div><div>They know the water volume, head and flow rate. BAM!: Math!! </div><div><br></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Thank you,<div><br></div><div>Maverick</div><div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><div><br></div><div>Maverick Brown<br>Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br>Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br> • Solar Commander Remote Power<br> • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br>maverick@mavericksolar.com<br>512-460-9825</div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 16, 2025, at 4:11 PM, jay via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Good point.<div><br></div><div>It’s a grundfos SQFlex, voc is about 275 max. </div><div><br></div><div>jay<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 16, 2025, at 3:08 PM, Mac Lewis <maclewis1@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Jay,<br><div><br></div><div>What is the operating voltage of the pump/controller?</div><div><br></div><div>Im wondering if the controller manufacturer may have a solution. It may be hard to find something that would tolerate being power cycled every day.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:54 PM jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">HI All,<br>
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Here is a weird one to me.<br>
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A buddy works for the forest service and they have an new solar pump without batteries which they want to meter the electrical usage.<br>
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Offgrid, no cell. Its doesn’t need to be real time, can be just monthly totals.<br>
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I don’t know where to even look for something like this.<br>
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thanks in advance<br>
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jay<br>
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