<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:01 AM, Jay <jay.peltz@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">They are lucky. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The contracts everyone signed with PG&E are for 20 yrs. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After that PGE can move you to another contract </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As to the wireless meter vs physically read meter, I don’t know if they will allow that. They have electronic meters that are not wireless so they still do all the recording but are read via a IR reader that a human points at the meter if I have it correct. </div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 14, 2025, at 11:47 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style>@font-face { font-family: Calibri; }
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div.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1; }</style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">David:</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I suspect it will be sooner rather than later the client will have to accept the NEM3 rates and a Smart meter. NEM3 is a time of use rate (metered down to the hour for export) and you can't do that with a mechanical meter. </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I imagine the concern is about RF data transmission. They may be able to request a meter that does not connect wirelessly to the utility for meter reading purposes. This is pure speculation on my part.</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">William</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.millersolar.com">www.millersolar.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>From: RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of David Coale via RE-wrenches<br>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 10:11 PM<br>To: RE-wrenches<br>Cc: David Coale<br>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Obscure PG&E NEM 3 question for CA Wrenchers</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">This is an obscure PG&E NEM 3 related question for the California Wrenchers, since no one out side CA - PG&E land might be able to answer this.</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">I have a client with a 25 year old grid-tied system. When PG&E went to smart meters they declined (worried about EMF) and have been able to hold on to their old mechanical meter and the old billing.</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">Now they want to upgrade to a new system as they are electrifying their home. Does anyone know if they will still be able to hold on to their old meter and old billing? I am guessing not and they just got lucky that PG&E has not forced them to get a new smart meter. Seems like they found a loophole and did not really realize it.</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks,</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">David</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">_______________________________________________</p><p class="MsoPlainText">List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org">http://re-wrenches.org</a></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">Change listserver email address & settings:</p><p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">There are two list archives for searching. 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