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<p>That's difficult to say because its more a function of weight
than depth of snow. It's not called Sierra Cement here in the
Sierras for fun, sometimes 4" of snow can weight as much as a
foot. We had 3 feet of "regular" snow (yes, 3 feet) slide of a
top-of-pole array with no damage to the panels, but depending on
things like ice stuck to the bottom lip of a PV can make the
difference. Or like Todd said whether or not there is enough room
for the snow to clear the bottom of the array after the slide
event.<br>
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in deep snow country tall pole mounts can be
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Now that engineering is mandated, this adds more
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There was a thread where people were experimenting
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<div>In general that had been my philosophy, but
sometimes pole mounts are just logistically to
difficult/ expensive - especially large
ones. In general, if it is a windy location,
the snow doesn't stick around that long.
However, even pole mounts at a steep angle can
get encrusted and if it doesn't get warm
enough or sunny, that can stick on the panels
for a week or more. I've never considered
anything like heat panels or tape, but if
there is something that works that doesn't
harm the panels, then it might be a decent
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works best. In big snow country here, I
learned the hard way to only do pole
mounts... and set the angle steep in the
winter. The snow slides off and all is fine.<br>
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I’ve never tried it but just heard about
these people. From the bio they are the
original makers of rain X, but they
customized a product, several of them, to
clean Pv panels and they also mentioned it
can help to shed rain and snow.</div>
<div>By the way, Rainx is not approved for
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heat panels or cables to melt
iced-over panels (ie. without
damaging the panels)? In heavy
snow country, or over periods of
freeze/thaw when pelty slushy
snow sticks and freezes to
panels, it would be nice to have
a safe method of clearing them,
especially off-grid. I remember
discussions of the futility of
backfeeding panels to heat them
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