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We Installed the automatic transfer switch so the inverter AC input could be either grid or generator.
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<div>All Solar, Inc.
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<div>Penrose Colorado 81240</div>
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<div>Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 24, 2024, at 10:41 AM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jeremy:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Question: Did you install the ATS as a work-around to the problem described?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/">www.millersolar.com</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Rodriguez<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] New Outback FXR Series as GTGBB on existing Off Grid Home</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">We have a client that has brought utility power in and we now have the system hooked up to the utility.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">In setting the system up, I've experienced that the inverter will sell and function fine with all the settings set up as<b> Grid Tied</b> mode, but it does not play nice when
the grid is gone , and the Generator is brought in as the AC source.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">We have installed an external transfer switch to switch the inverters' AC input, from either the utility or the existing backup generator ( if the grid fails), automatically. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The manual states that the inverter's two input selections can be programmed for seperate input modes, via the<b> Input</b>
<b>Type</b> menu. Ive not been able to get this accomplished. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">When simulating a grid outage, thus changing the AC input to the inverter being from the Generator, the inverter will not synch to the AC power to charge the batteries. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The only way that I can get the inverter to synch, is to switch the input mode to
<b>GEN</b> from <b>GRID.</b></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">This is not ideal since the client would need to be present to make the button push, even though the generator will be started automatically if the grid were to go down (hopefully)
, just as it did before.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">With no way to contact Outback , can someone advise how to properly program the inverter/ MATE3S for this project? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Single VFXR3648 inverter</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">ATS with Dual Relays 50A </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Here's how we would like it to work:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Utility power ON: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Sell excess power once the batteries have gone through the Absorb cycle. Batteries remain full in case of a utility failure. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">ATS now feeds Inv AC input via Generator if needed.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Inverter runs the home as it did , off grid.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">If the battery voltage drops and the AGS is engaged, the inverter will use that input to charge the batteries as usual. If the grid comes back on and the gen is running, the
generator can still run, with no connection to the inverter. With the grid now charging the battery bank, and the AGS will enventually shut off the Gen. Based on voltage. </span></p>
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