<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">William,<div><br></div><div>There’s no PV on this system. It’s AC coupled to an SMA SB5.0. </div><div><br></div><div>As a test, we turned off the Grid input, Load output, and turned off the battery breaker. As expected, the high voltage DC eventually bled to 0V. Turning things on in this order: Battery, Grid, then Load resulted in the high voltage appearing once the Grid relay kicked on. Actually, the high voltage ramped up slowly once the Grid relay turned on.</div><div><br></div><div>We’ve been installing these for years and have never seen this. Then again, we’ve never measured that point.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 15, 2024, at 2:32 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Rick:</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If I had to guess I’d say you have a PV wiring fault. The PV positive may be shorted to ground. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>This would make the inverter chassis negative in relation to ground. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The logic I use is to ask what is the likely source of DC at 195 volts? It is most likely the PV circuits, wouldn’t you say?</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If the DC Fault is not eternal then it must be internal to the inverter. This could be a dangerous situation. I would proceed with caution.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Try completely isolating the PV from the inverter as a start.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Good luck.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">William Miller</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Miller Solar</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">805-438-5600</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.millersolar.com</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">CA Lic. 773985</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>rick--- via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, October 15, 2024 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rick@solshineenergy.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">rick@solshineenergy.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark Gen Input</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Back on the Sol-Ark topic again. We have a customer whose 12kW is measuring -195VDC to ground from L1 and L2 with the Gen breaker open. L1 to L2 = 0V. I know the Gen input can be configured as an output, but reading a high DC voltage to ground is concerning. The generator has never been run. System is operating normally. </div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Anyone have a Sol-Ark accessible that could verify what they’re reading?</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Thanks in advance. </div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Rick Brown</div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Solshine Energy </div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Solar Electric Contracting Services </div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><a href="http://www.solshineenergy.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.solshineenergy.com</a></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Roanoke, VA</div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Office: 540.235.3095</div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Mobile: 540.808.9502</div></div><div><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span class="s1">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only for the person(s) named in</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span class="s1">the message header. 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