<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Jharen,<br></div><div> Thanks for chiming in, this is some helpful information. Can you please give us any information on when or if these batteries will be "approved"? Have an inverter manufacturer refusing technical support seems like it would only push people away from their product. <br></div><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn" data-sigid="4634369000000023001" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><p style="line-height:1" class="MsoPlainText"><span style="">Andrew Perkins</span><br></p><p style="line-height:1" class="MsoPlainText"><span style="">Greenwired </span><br></p><p style="line-height:1" class="MsoPlainText"><span style="">P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100</span><br></p><p style="line-height:1" class="MsoPlainText"><span style="">1150 #1 Evergreen Rd</span><br></p><p style="line-height:1" class="MsoPlainText"><span style="">Redway, CA 95560</span><br></p><div><span style=""><a target="_blank" href="http://www.greenwired.com">www.greenwired.com</a></span><br></div><div style="line-height:1"><br><img style="" height="63" width="150" alt="New logo.png" src="cid:0.28869229790.4783462730452644948.19278f40979__inline__img__src"></div><div style="line-height:1"><span class="font" style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> <u><a target="_blank" href="http://qr.codes/qTa1Mh">Leave a review!</a></u></span><br></div><div style="line-height:1"><img height="150" style="" width="150" alt="qrcode_115305565_7d41abb3d8a91304ef1c1ceb56edaa4a.png" src="cid:1.28869229790.9168306900151441741.19278f40979__inline__img__src"><br><br><br></div><div style="line-height:1"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(203, 204, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></span></span><br><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:19:48 -0700 <b>Poole, Jharen via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></b> wrote ---<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="blockquote_zmail" style="margin: 0px;"><div class="zm_114097172552754010_parse_3386686737799927395" dir="ltr"><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="x_405971770elementToProof">The Sol-Ark inverter is battery agnostic, allowing you to use lithium batteries with open loop communication. If you prefer to use a battery with closed loop communication, you can refer to the list below that have a handful of some battery manufacturers we
fully support in closed loop communication. For a full list you can refer to our battery partners page on our <a target="_blank" title="https://www.sol-ark.com/solar-installers/battery-partners/" id="x_405971770LPlnk" href="https://www.sol-ark.com/solar-installers/battery-partners/"> website</a> that list batteries we fully support in closed loop communications. These batteries have been tested and approved to ensure compatibility and meet our functionality standards with the Sol-Ark inverter. We continue to work with battery vendors, that
are approved and also not approved.<br></div><div style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="x_405971770elementToProof">While use of non-approved batteries may not, by itself, void Sol-Ark’s standard limited warranty, because of significant operational and functional issues that have arisen with non-approved battery vendors, Sol-Ark determined that it does not offer technical
support for non-approved batteries. As a result, Sol-Ark will not provide technical support for non-approved batteries installed or used with Sol-Ark inverters. Sol-Ark will otherwise continue to offer and provide the industry leading technical and customer
support for which it is known. Some of the listed manufacturers offer outdoor rated enclosures to use with their batteries. I recommend reaching out to these manufacturers to see what options may be best for your installation.<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> <br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Renon (will be added to our communications guide soon)<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Briggs&Stratton<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Discover<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Homegrid<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Pytes<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Storz Power<br></div><div style="line-height: 1.284; margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="x_405971770elementToProof">EndurEnergy Systems<br></div><div class="x_405971770elementToProof" id="x_405971770Signature"><div style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br></div><div style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Best Regards,<br> <br> Jharen Poole</div><div style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Applications Engineer II<br></div><div style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">972-575-8875<br></div><div style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><img src="cid:ed3b111d-b8f7-4971-9f0b-77261831b08d" style="max-width: 781px"><br></div></div><div id="x_405971770appendonsend"><br></div><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 98%"><div dir="ltr" id="x_405971770divRplyFwdMsg"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><span class="colour" style="color:#000000"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> on behalf of Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 10, 2024 2:33 PM<br> <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> Michael Morningstar <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:mjmorningstar@gmail.com">mjmorningstar@gmail.com</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] sol ark battery</span></span></span> <div> <br></div></div><div><table width="100%" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="background: rgb(255, 185, 0); padding: 5pt 2pt 5pt 2pt"><br></td><td style="background: rgb(255, 248, 229); padding: 5pt 4pt 5pt 12pt" width="100%"><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><b>Caution:</b></span> This email is from an external source.<br></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><div><div dir="ltr">Just installed an AIO/Pflo16. The build quality and attention to detail make Sol-Ark look like what I've always considered them to be, CCC. Had one glitch and Rick and Logan were there for me immediately. There's nothing like talking to an engineer that
designed their gear. We'll be installing a few more of these in GT/BB and OG contexts and one larger three phase BB system in the next month or so. I have a really good feeling about this inverter and battery pairing.<br></div><br><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div class="x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 12:11 PM Nick Lucchese via RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex" class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Wonderful to hear Howie. I have high hopes for many projects with Powerflo's. Hard to believe we can finally offer a battery solution with so many positive attributes by a trusted partner like Midnite for just $.25 a watt hour on the retail level.
Discover has been saying it for a bit on some of their marketing materials but I finally now feel that lead is nearly dead for the majority of our installations. <div><br></div><div>Nick<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div class="x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 11:22 AM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex" class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">Installed my first production model Midnite AIO with 2 PowerFlo 16 batteries, off grid. Still learning to finess the program structure, but the integration was plug and play and flawless. No internet at site yet and the internet monitoring
app isn't released yet for general use, but the Bluetooth app works well and is fairly clear. The batteries are Pylon compliant and are said to be totally compatible with Sol-Ark, though I haven't tried it yet. 2 more systems going in soon. <div dir="auto">Howie<br></div></div><br><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div class="x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 12:29 PM Nick Lucchese via RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex" class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Definitely appears that Midnite's new Powerflo batteries would be applicable as well since it supports the Pylon protocol. Appears to be a true game changer but have not received my first shipment yet for a full review. <div><br></div><div>Nick<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div class="x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:32 AM jay via RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex" class="x_gmail_quote">HI All<br> <br> <br> Wondering what people are using for lithium battery and sol ark?<br> <br> And no, LA is not a option for this system.<br> <br> Outdoor rated would be preferred, heated isn’t needed.<br> <br> thanks in advance<br> <br> jay<br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br> <br> Pay optional member dues here: <a target="_blank" href="http://re-wrenches.org"> http://re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> List Address: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"> RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> Change listserver email address & settings:<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> There are two list archives for searching. 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