<div dir="ltr">Hi Jason -<div><br></div><div>There are many options on how a manufacturer can implement Power Control Systems (PCS) and based on my experience with Tesla products, I'd say it's the best thing since sliced bread. I expect that all major manufactures will be implementing more advanced PCS features as soon as they are able to develop and list them.</div><div><br></div><div>But, getting back to your question - one PCS variant is a simple conductor limit setting that stops controlled equipment output when a certain set current limit is reached. This, as you point out, may not be the best choice for large PV/inverter systems. Another PCS setting involves setting a controlled "virtual panel" where all inputs are monitored. This PCS setting can be, for example, 160 Amps in your 200 A meter/main example. Here is more info on how that works: <a href="https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/Energy/Powerwall/Powerwall-2-Backup-Gateway-2-Installation-Manual-NA-EN/GUID-D71DFD63-1414-4915-B7A5-7E48703100DE.html">https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/Energy/Powerwall/Powerwall-2-Backup-Gateway-2-Installation-Manual-NA-EN/GUID-D71DFD63-1414-4915-B7A5-7E48703100DE.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>I'm working on learning more about Enphase systems currently since SunPower is filing for bankruptcy, so it's good to learn what Enphase can and can't do at this point.</div><div><br></div><div>Best, August<br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Note: This email is written from the perspective of the Enphase<br>
terminology, but the concept and question is the same in a general<br>
sense.<br>
<br>
<br>
I am having a hard time understanding the logic and benefit of a power<br>
control system that is used for avoiding a main panel upgrade in a<br>
typical residence. If you have a 200A main panel bus with a 200A main<br>
breaker, the current limit for a backfed breaker is 32A from the PV,<br>
no matter what. The PCS will artificially reduce the PV output to 32A<br>
when it could be capable of a much higher current for large systems<br>
depending on sunlight availability. That would waste a lot of energy<br>
if the PV system is significantly larger than a 32A output rating.<br>
<br>
The PCS standards seem to have missed the mark. Wouldn't it make more<br>
sense to limit the total current delivered to the bus from all<br>
sources? For example, in the example above, if PV is delivering 40A,<br>
why not allow limiting utility input to 120A for a total of 160A<br>
continuous delivered to the bus before PV is throttled? If the utility<br>
is delivering zero, the PV could deliver all the way up to 160A the<br>
the bus if capable. That way, all of the loads would be powered to the<br>
maximum extent from PV with the excess exported (if allowed via net<br>
metering from the serving utility).<br>
<br>
Am I missing something about how PCS works? I just don't see many use<br>
cases for main panel avoidance that are in customers' best interest.<br>
If we can't meet the 120% rule, we just do supply-side<br>
interconnections so nothing is wasted. But a backfed breaker would be<br>
so much easier if PCS were implemented in the way that I would like it<br>
to work.<br>
<br>
Jason Szumlanski<br>
Florida Solar Design Group<br>
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