<div dir="ltr">And all of their videos show, unless I'm missing something, animations, not an actual installed machine.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 1:02 PM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My simple answer is to ask the company for just one customer name (not a million)
with one still working after a year, with contact information to confirm that the product works. Usually that ends the conversation. Just one customer or even just a video with sound and a meter showing output.would be a great step forward. I paid $999 for a "1kw" machine that arrived in good condition with nice blades and well built but the 30" long blades were a dead giveaway that I would not produce anywhere near 1000 watts. Had a nice little controller and dumpload but the best power I saw was 550 watts in a gale. No need for a dump load. Less than a year later it blew to pieces with parts scattered all over my pasture.For nine kw output you would need 10' to 15;+ blades. and the unit would be super heavy.. <div><br></div><div>John Blittersdorf </div><div>CV Wind.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 12:14 PM Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p><font size="4">When I was maybe 10, I drew a picture of a car
with little windmills on it and told my dad, (MS nuclear/mineral
engineer), that I had created basically a self perpetuating
vehicle. (I had no idea what that actually was). My dad was
very nice and smiled at me. (At least he didn't laugh).</font></p>
<p><font size="4">I've written off VAWT, so if something has
changed, I'd like to know. This seems not to be hopeful.</font></p>
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<p>On a hot day, you could turn the ceiling fan on high, and the
breeze would operate the turbine, thus zeroing out your energy
use. Talk about free energy! <br>
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<p>In the same vein, here's a solution to our transportation
problems as well:</p>
<p><img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FMlwK4kCrXB0%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1581e5cc60be746bcd8bd95c445b5d84c8460841549e62e4315b52ab41e5d9bb&ipo=images" alt="Wind Power on a CAR #1 - Is it FREE? - YouTube" width="632" height="355"></p>
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Remote Solar</p>
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Hey all, </div>
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I know well the old adage - "If it sounds to good to
be true, then it probably is." I also know that I have
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That said, I am doing some consulting for someone who
wants to buy and install this Tesup windmill...
Supposedly a 9 kW wind turbine for $999</div>
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<a href="https://tesup.com/us/products/tesup-horizontal-wind-turbines-for-homes" id="m_-2252062214018204234m_-6651488065321960900m_-78550871996830930LPlnk" target="_blank">https://tesup.com/us/products/tesup-horizontal-wind-turbines-for-homes</a></div>
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My customer claims all the normal things... This
company has been around for a very long time (so they
claim), they have millions of happy customers (so they
claim), they are from Europe, not Asia (as though that
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I know enough to be highly suspicious, and I won't be
touching this unit myself either way, but I'm just
curious if anyone knows anything directly about this
specific one. I'll be advising this person not to get
his hopes up if he does decide to try it out, and that
I am suspicious, but if anyone has anything more
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