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    <p><font size="4">When I was maybe 10, I drew a picture of a car
        with little windmills on it and told my dad, (MS nuclear/mineral
        engineer), that I had created basically a self perpetuating
        vehicle. (I had no idea what that actually was).  My dad was
        very nice and smiled at me.  (At least he didn't laugh).</font></p>
    <p><font size="4">I've written off VAWT, so if something has
        changed, I'd like to know. This seems not to be hopeful.</font></p>
    <p><font size="4">Chris <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/4/2024 3:56 PM, Ray Walters via
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      <p>On a hot day, you could turn the ceiling fan on high, and the
        breeze would operate the turbine, thus zeroing out your energy
        use.  Talk about free energy! <br>
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      <p>In the same vein, here's a solution to our transportation
        problems as well:</p>
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        <div dir="ltr">Probably should convince them go to with
          Tesup's VAWT offering instead.
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                  Hey all, </div>
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                  I know well the old adage - "If it sounds to good to
                  be true, then it probably is." I also know that I have
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                  That said, I am doing some consulting for someone who
                  wants to buy and install this Tesup windmill...
                  Supposedly a 9 kW wind turbine for $999</div>
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                  My customer claims all the normal things... This
                  company has been around for a very long time (so they
                  claim), they have millions of happy customers (so they
                  claim), they are from Europe, not Asia (as though that
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                  I know enough to be highly suspicious, and I won't be
                  touching this unit myself either way, but I'm just
                  curious if anyone knows anything directly about this
                  specific one. I'll be advising this person not to get
                  his hopes up if he does decide to try it out, and that
                  I am suspicious, but if anyone has anything more
                  specific, I'd love to hear about it so I can give
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