<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">I don’t know who’s bigger or has more money. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">EG4 is a manufacturer </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Signature is a distributor </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Both are in the same town </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Some one on this site said EG4 said they bought OB. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">EG 4 makes more sense as they would have lots of Chinese manufacturing contacts. If OB is coming out with new products, I’d expect they are coming out of China. </div><div dir="ltr">I could easily see them partnering with any of the large Chinese companies. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I guess we will know soon. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 20, 2024, at 6:16 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">At Intersolar (January) San Diego, I heard Bigbatterybox.com purchased Outback. Since then, I've heard it may be Signature Solar. I am unsure who purchased them, but with them being so close to Signature Solar, that makes sense. I'm not sure who purchased them, but they have been asleep at the wheel since then. They can't sell any product in Canada because they have let their CSA certificates lapse. <br><br><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div style="float:left;padding:1px 10px 0 0"><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.rollsbattery.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/YIluKhq.png" alt="" style="padding:3px 0px 0px 10px;float:left;margin-right:10px;width:98px;height:115px" data-unique-identifier=""></a><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px"><font color="#bb1a1d">Steve Higgins ⋅
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Keep your fingers crossed and let's all wait patiently.<div dir="auto">Fun times </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 19, 2024, 10:53 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I started poking through EnerSys's (The most recent owner of Outback) SEC filings in hopes to find who the new buyer is. I found nothing related to the sale but found this in their most recent quarterly report :<div><br></div><div>On November 8, 2023, the Company's Board of Directors approved a plan to stop production and operations of residential renewable energy products, which include our OutBack and Mojave brands. Management determined that residential renewable energy products no longer fit with the company’s core strategy and resources will be better allocated toward commercial energy solutions for enterprise customers. The Company currently estimates that the total charges for these actions will amount to $23.5 million relating primarily to $22.6 million in non-cash charges primarily including inventory and an indefinite-lived intangible asset write-offs and $0.9 million in cash charges including employee severance and retention payments. The plan is expected to be completed in fiscal 2024. During the nine months of fiscal 2024, the Company recorded non-cash charges totaling $6.6 million primarily related to indefinite-lived intangible asset write-off and cash charges of $0.4 million related to severance costs. The Company also recorded a non-cash write off relating to inventories of $16.1 million, which was reported in cost of goods sold.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>To say I am curious about what is going on is an understatement. </div><div><br></div><div>Aloha,<div><br></div><div>Lou Russo </div><div>Owner</div><div><a href="mailto:lou@spreesolarsystems.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lou@spreesolarsystems.com</a></div><div>808 345 6762</div><div>Spree Solar Systems LLC </div><div>CT-34322</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 2:21 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">I agree with you William</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">While there could be all sorts of valid reasons for the downtime. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">What’s not acceptable is the lack of communication and notification that it was going to happen or had happened. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If they do have new owners they are not starting well. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 18, 2024, at 9:42 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Friends:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I am sure you are all acutely aware, but this is not a trivial matter. We depend on Optics for alerts and trouble shooting. We rely on Optics for the history it records to analyze trends and evaluate production and consumption. I doubt the data lost will back-fill. I sell Outback based in great part on the Optics interface. For this system to be down for days at a time is not a good sign at all.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I will be lighting up the phone lines on Monday to find out what happened and to emphasize this cannot become a pattern.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">William</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">www.millersolar.com</span></a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lou Russo via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 18, 2024 11:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Cc:</b> Lou Russo<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Optics</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">All my sites are currently down.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Not related but I tried to call tech support yesterday during business hours and got message saying thank you for calling Outback Sales leave a message.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I do hope they are just in transition but I got a bad feeling about this. I hope I am wrong.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone heard for sure who bought them? I know they were bought from talking to tech support but that is all I know and the Internet has 0 info on a recent sale. </p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, May 18, 2024, 6:48 AM Dan Fink via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Mine all went down yesterday at noon MDT. I wonder if this has to do with the sale of Outback?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34);border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in">Dan Fink</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34)">Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34)">IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34)">NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34)">NABCEP PV Associate</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="mailto:dan.fink@greendustrialtraining.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">d</a><a href="mailto:anbob88@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">anbob88@gmail.com</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(34,34,34)">970-672-4342</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br> </p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 10:17 AM William Miller via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Friends:</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">100% of our Optics sites are down since 11 AM yesterday. 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