<div dir="ltr">Same experience for me, Toast if reboot doesn't wake it up.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 3:33 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've had several MX and FM failures (at least 5) over the years, often with the output at zero. I don't know what actually fails, but they just stop producing. I must admit, I don't remember if in all cases I tried resetting them to factory default, but my memory is when talking to Outback support, after checking for appropriate input and output voltages, if there aren't any other obvious issues, they've told me the units are toast.<br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Howie Michaelson</div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Sun Catcher<br></div><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 2:45 PM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">No error message for CC fan<br>
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The fan should cycle from battery power off start up. <br>
<br>
I e never seen a CC produce zero watts. Reduced yes <br>
<br>
While the fan might be broken I don’t think that explains the issue.<br>
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> On Apr 23, 2024, at 11:36 AM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> If the fan fails would there be an error message? As always, I looked this<br>
> up before posting. The manual is not clear on the matter.<br>
> <br>
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> It may be the fan. I had an FM 80 where the fan went bad that caused very<br>
> limited solar production throughout the day.<br>
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>> On Apr 23, 2024, at 6:54 AM, jay via RE-wrenches<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> HI Jim,<br>
>> <br>
>> The CC is sure suspect.<br>
>> You didn’t mention what the battery voltage is.<br>
>> Those CC have a hard PV watt input limit.<br>
>> <br>
>> You can try and set it back to factory default and then reprogram,<br>
>> sometimes that works.<br>
>> <br>
>> I don’t use the FM-60, but always the FM-80 because of the fan<br>
>> replacement. the 80 takes 3 minutes, the 60 takes 2 hours.<br>
>> <br>
>> jay<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Apr 23, 2024, at 6:00 AM, Jim Gowdy via RE-wrenches<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> I'm troubleshooting the solar aspect of a small offgrid 120v outback<br>
>>> system and need some opinions. The customer was complaining that the<br>
>>> generator was running too much so I went out to their property and<br>
>>> investigated. The solar array consists of 16 total panels (4 strings of<br>
>>> 4). At the combiner box, I took the voltage and amperage reading of each<br>
>>> string and found the following......BREAKER 1 (85VDC/8.87A) BREAKER 2<br>
>>> (84.5VDC/8.9A) BREAKER 3 (.03VDC/0A) BREAKER 4(85VDC/8.89A). Breaker 3<br>
>>> string was not producing and so I did a fix and then read<br>
>>> (87.1VDC/8.43A). After reviewing the online monitor since that fix from<br>
>>> a few days prior I'm realizing that the first day after had 4.5KWH<br>
>>> production, second day had 0.7KWH production, and yesterday had 0.3KWH<br>
>>> production.....sun has been out without clouds. The 60A Outback charge<br>
>>> controller shows there is PV voltage, but noticed it was in "silent mode"<br>
>>> a good amount of time. Charge controller is old, but all the other<br>
>>> equipment was updated about a year and a half ago. I was wondering if<br>
>>> there is a way to diagnose if the charge controller is bad without just<br>
>>> replacing it and what does it mean when it's in "silent mode". Another<br>
>>> side note is that their generator threw an AGS fault code on the MATE3<br>
>>> controller and found that the generator has problems so I ended up<br>
>>> turning from "auto" to "off"<br>
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