<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is exactly the situation that the midnite AIO is addressing or similar. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lets say that you go with 11 panels ( and that works keeping it under 600voc).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you go with enphase, thats about $3000 with cable. Plus you’ll need larger wire due to it only being 240vac vs closer to 380vdc for a DC series. </div><div class="">That 600v controller will set you back between $1200-2000 with BOS and smaller wire. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Using the $2000, and $3000.</div><div class="">If the AIO is say $4500. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then for $2500 your getting 3 inputs, 600vdc, AFCI, and all the other bells and whistles. Much higher efficiency than AC coupling.</div><div class="">And a 12 kw vs 8kw inverter. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And if customer decides to go more solar, then the AIO is already set up to add more with $0 expense on the CC side. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A whole new world</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jay<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 10, 2024, at 11:06 AM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Logan<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is MidNite making the AIO or is it rebrand like the other guys? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If MidNite is actually making it, that adds a whole new level of interest. 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This would be a game changer.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thank you,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maverick</div><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maverick Brown<br class="">Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br class="">Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br class=""> • Solar Commander Remote Power<br class=""> • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br class=""><a href="mailto:maverick@mavericksolar.com" class="">maverick@mavericksolar.com</a><br class="">512-460-9825</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 10, 2024, at 10:54 AM, William Bryce via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">All<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a Beta tester and being a part of the development of the MNS All in One, MNS is working to ensure that the current limitations from the use of LA batteries will be addressed and supported. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">MNS is addressing the concerns of using an AOI inverter because failure will require the R&R of the unit. This AIO is designed to be completely field serviceable and MNS will stock the boards and will provide the technical help to get the system back up and running in the field.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Logan</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 11:01 AM Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Good Morning Wrenches... <br class=""><br class="">When it comes to lead batteries, just be cautious of the all-in-ones and some of the hybrid inverters. <br class=""><br class="">Most of these inverters were not designed for Lead batteries and will struggle to charge them, resulting in sulfation (undercharging) issues. Eventually, this will lead to swelling of VRLA or excessive gassing on Flooded Batteries. Unfortunately, many of the "Hybrid" or "All-in-One" inverters released in the past 5-8 years are tailored more to lithium-chemistry batteries. 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Even though Fortress sales advertises the Envy to be compatible with lead-acid, after trying it in my off-grid home, I would emphatically say that it is not. The programming is inadequate, to put it kindly. And their support really doesn't have a clue about lead-acid - Fortress support literally said that they don't recommend pairing the Envy with l-a. However, I don't have an opinion about how it does with closed loop Li batteries. <br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I did recently install an EG4 18k system, off-grid, with the client's knowledge that this was a bit of an experiment for me. Both the Envy and the EG4 are made by LuxPower and have been, to date, physically and programmatically almost identical. I had stayed away from EG4 since it seemed to be primarily aimed at the DIY market. However, the 18k appears to be a serious contender so far, although this installation is a fairly low stress situation. I've been fairly impressed with the system. While this 18k is paired with EG4 Lithium batteries, EG4 has been making adjustments to the firmware to make it much more friendly to lead-acid. If you decide to go this route, check with EG4 (installer support - ask for Jarrett or Colt) to see where they are at with upgrading the firmware.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am also eagerly awaiting Midnite's AIO entry...<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br clear="all" class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="">Howie<br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:02 AM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Time will tell where the failure modes are. I still don't like all the eggs in one basket. Do you have to send the units back for repair? Had enough of that with Trace SW series inverters.. <div class="">For off grid, I'll stick to the tried and true for now. For Grid tie it is just a financial hit. For off-grid power loss it is more important to deal with right away.. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am going to try a Fortress Envy at my off grid home but will keep my Outback field repairable VFXR wired in just in case. I had a massive lightning strike between my house and a guest cabin 1/4 mile away and I lost power from my Fortress Eflex battery at the cabin and my Outback inverter at my house. I replaced the control board on my inverter ( I always keep one in reserve as it is usually the only board failure due to lightning) and was back on line in 1/2 hour and Fortress rushed me a new BMS board for the E-flex and a day later and a half hour swap had it back in service, Now it is a different story with 2 Simpliphi batteries I have from a customer that failed. I have to ship them to California to have them evaluated to see if we had damaged them by misuse. Lots of expense and time lost.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John Blittersdorf</div><div class="">CV Wind Service / Off Grid Vermont</div><div class="">802-770-8625</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 11:43 PM Scot Arey via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Wow, are we in the golden age of inverter/chargers? If it had 200-a.p pass thru it would be near perfect.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Begs the question: are stand alone charge controllers becoming a historical artifact?</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="m_-1147916357246532476m_-516467929018213388m_8124941745268005260m_1310055173889758129ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Howard "Scot" Arey</div><div dir="auto" class="">Owner, Solar CenTex</div><div dir="auto" class="">254-300-1228</div></div></div>
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