<div dir="auto">Jason, Very helpful. Thank you</div><div dir="auto">I wonder why, after years of calling tech support, nobody at Enphase told me the S is a replacement for the R. it took a compatriot installer/integrator to care enough.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 2:51 PM Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Somehow I missed that you said it's an Envoy-S. Which lights are on? There are four, left to right:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><ol style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><li style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Cloud connected the Enphase Enlighten (normally green, red if WiFi connected but no Internet)</li><li style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Installer WiFi Access Point (normally off)</li><li style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">All assigned micros producing power (normally green)</li><li style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">All assigned micros communicating with Envoy (normally green)</li></ol></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If the first light is red or off, it just needs to be reconnected to a working Wi-Fi network. The consumer can do that in their app (Menu | Settings | Connectivity). If it's off, it could be a number of things, but usually, the WiFi network is no longer available, or the Envoy has glitched out. Either way, reconnecting it usually works. Sometimes it can be a frustrating series of reboots to get it going. But the app will walk them through the steps.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Enphase WILL help the consumer directly with this, but if they have directed the customer to their installer, either the customer is technology-challenged, or the Installer Toolkit is required to forget the original network and then reconnect to the new one (or the same one sometimes). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">One other thing... Some of those units may have been Cellular connected, and the 5-year data plan may have expired. Enphase can tell you how it was last connected with the serial number or site ID. That would be a good call to make before heading out there. The solution could be as simple as connecting it to their WiFi. Sometimes installers don't want the hassle of WiFi issues, so they just pop in a cellular modem. I have seen a number of national installers do that. It is not good practice. Ethernet is best and WiFi works well usually.</div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br>Jason Szumlanski<div><span style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956</span></div><div><font face="Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208</font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 2:12 PM jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>Hi David.<div><br></div><div>This one is a standard newer version Envoy S. </div><div><br></div><div>I’ve had this exact same issue of tech “support” numerous times. I had to go to my neighbors to confirm that the panels were wired correctly, after they had been installed for years. I’m not making this up.</div><div><br></div><div>Seems to really depend on who you get on the phone if they will help you or not which isn’t good. </div><div><br></div><div>Thats why I”m looking for any help to find the right phone number or person who will/can help.</div><div><br></div><div>I’m guessing its either the envoy needs to be rebooted or its broken. </div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 15, 2024, at 11:49 AM, david quattro <<a href="mailto:david@quattrosolar.com" target="_blank">david@quattrosolar.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>wow, your experience is worse than anything I've ever heard of from Enphase tech support. My experience with them is this: they know their old Envoys are garbage (the M-Series are failing left and right now). The executives made the decision that they will no longer manufacture new M-Envoys. I don't know their posture regarding S-Series, I haven't seen those fail yet. So instead of selling you a good brand new M-Envoy, they try to connive you into replacing 100% of your microinverters with IQ-Enphase - you know, because they are such a great, responsible company.</div><div> Actual options moving forward are to find a used M-Series Envoy that you have tested in-house before you go on your 5 hour drive. I have one I can sell you. Or you deliver the bad news to the customer and tell them the truth - they are flying blind without a functioning Envoy. Ground mounts aren't that bad since you could teach the customer to walk up and verify PV current on each module with a decent meter. For me essentially all of my Enphase fleet went onto residential rooftops where regular access is not an option. What kills me about Enphase is that every step of the way over the last 15 years - EVERY single time they changed their inverter architecture, they promised that all the new stuff would be backward compatible with old gear. And every single time, they were full of it.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 9:49 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Hi all<br>
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Is there anyway to get tech support with remote coms?<br>
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I got a call just the other day from someone with an envoy. It’s stopped communicating to enohase. Enphase says they need the installer who’s now gone. <br>
They just won’t help the customer. <br>
It’s about a 5 hr round trip for me. Which is nuts as I’ll have to communicate with enohase anyway. <br>
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And I’ve heard rhis exact issue multiple times from numerous people. Envoy has lights but has stopped communicating. I’ve heard enohase tech say “the panels are wired wrong. “. You mean they magically changed after 10 years?<br>
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Does anyone have a person/number etc of who will help them?<br>
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Thanks<br>
Jay<br>
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