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<p>I<font size="4">'ve done a fair amount of roof mounted solar
structural compliance, and I would say that the cantilevered
design looks like a disaster waiting to happen. You could not
use conventional solar racking products. Chris</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/2024 12:42 PM, William Miller
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My
earlier reply may have been a bit facetious. What I meant
by it was that big-box solar contractors can be lazy when it
comes to solar design. They will rely totally on satellite
imagery and not check the design on the ground. This is how
you get solar proposed for shaded areas, where skylights and
roof vents are located, or overhanging thin air. This may
be what is happening in the image you shared. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What
is unique here is someone actually specified overhanging
panels. Looking more closely at the image, a roof outline
is shown but it is not clear that the outline is actually
situated over a building. It almost looks like there is
landscaped area inside the outline.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
solution of course is to get on out there, measure the roof
and any obstructions and analyze the shading. I use the <a
href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sun-seeker-tracker-surveyor/id330247123"
moz-do-not-send="true">Sun Seeker</a> app for IOS for the
shading analysis.</span></p>
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Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 13, 2024 8:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
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<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: Cantilevered
array</span></p>
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<p><span
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larger snip of the situation.</span><span
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Label
says overhang from upper roof. </span><span
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<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Drake
Chamberlin</span></em><span
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<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Athens
Electric LLC</span></em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p>
<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Ohio
Electrical Contractor’s License 44810</span></em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p>
<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">NABCEP
Certified PV Installation Professional</span></em><span
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you sure that's what you're looking at? To me,
that looks like there was an addition made to
the house, and maybe it's a multi-pitch roof.
That lower part might be a covered wrap-around
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Florida State Certified Solar Contractor
CVC56956</span><span
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Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:59 PM Drake Chamberlin
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style="font-family:"Courier New"">I was given a drawing,
produced by a very large solar company,
showing the array cantilevered over the
edge of the roof by several feet. </span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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out over the lawn for several feet. Is
there anyway that this is a legitimate way
to mount modules?</span><span
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<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Athens
Electric LLC</span></em><span
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<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Ohio
Electrical Contractor's License 44810</span></em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""></span></p>
<p><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">NABCEP
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