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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck trying to convince your customer that their house caught on fire because of a manufacturers flaw, and you have no responsibility for it…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It may be an out to shift the blame, but it only makes everybody get some on them…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Miller via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 08, 2023 12:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b>Cc:</b> William Miller <william@millersolar.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable sizing for high current modules? NEC interpretation/guidance?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>George:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Appliance manufacturers have their own requirements that are not the same as the NEC requirements. As long as you are not modifying the manufactured assembly you are not responsible for compliance of that appliance. By appliance, I mean the solar module, microinverter, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>William Miller</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Miller Solar</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>805-438-5600</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/">www.millersolar.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>CA Lic. 773985</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>George McClellan via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Cc:</b> George McClellan<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Cable sizing for high current modules? NEC interpretation/guidance?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Team;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>With the move to larger cells, some modules have an Isc that is pushing the limits of 12 AWG wire. If I apply the rule of 156% (or 125% solar derate*125% continuous load derate) to an 18 Amp Isc module this will exceed the 25A that a 12 AWG wire can carry. I understand that the homeruns will need to be a larger AWG (10 ga), but do the solar module cables (from junction box to MC4) also need to be larger? Any guidance or reference material would be greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thx,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>George McClellan | Senior Technical Sales Manager | REC Americas LLC <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:4.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:8.0pt'>330 James Way Ste 150<span lang=UK> | </span>Pismo Beach, CA 93449<span lang=UK> | </span>USA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cell phone +1 805 704 3226 | Fax +1 805 357 6104 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'><a href="http://www.recgroup.com/" title="http://www.recgroup.com/">www.recgroup.com</a> </span><span style='color:black'>| <a href="mailto:shannon.kent@recgroup.com">george.mcclellan@recgroup.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'><br>This message is private and confidential and may be privileged. 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