<div dir="ltr">A customer of mine has both hot and cold water plumbed to his outdoor hose spigots, similar to an indoor sink, so he can clean anything outside with a warm to hot mix if necessary. Obviously better cleaning than cold alone.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 9:45 AM White, Will via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-4359583424351663476">





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<p class="MsoNormal">I worked with a guy who had done installs in Arizona. He had an off-grid customer spray down their array with cold well water in the middle of the day, which shattered the module glass.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m sure it was an isolated incident, but it happened.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 20, 2023 4:47 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com" target="_blank">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [RE-wrenches] Cleaning PV mods<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't understand the thermal shock nonsense. It routinely starts downpouring here when it's blazing hot out (sun showers) and the rain is way cooler than ground water in summer. It makes no sense. If hose water from the ground is going
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<p class="MsoNormal">I replied privately to Dana, but for the benefit of the group, it takes a heavy soiling to make any appreciable difference. I have done numerous tests at times of high pollen and found little to no benefit to cleaning solar panels. Certainly
 it would not be worth paying someone to do it. Other climates may have different results. My suggestion would be to test first. Module level power electronics can provide incontrovertible proof.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See attached from REC. I would imagine these guidelines would apply to all modules.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Ok bad solar installer! 7 years & I have never cleaned my modules & live on a dirt road. Yeah rain does a
 good job with the dust but there is a film mostly on the edges.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">What does everyone do for cleaning?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">My array is 16’+ tall on a hill side. I have a pressure washer & was going to pick up a large sponge type
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Good Biodegradable cleaning solutions?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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