<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:large">It was pointed out that I meant Ferro-resonant transformer.  The transformer has a coil and a capacitor tuned to 60 hrzs.   Sorry if I confused wrenches.  </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 11:35 AM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I must agree with Ray, that inverter was never intended to run the slew of electronics we have now. There are gadgets out on the market that may do what you want but the reliability is in question. Does this site have a genny? Using the  that may get you past the issue but not solving the problem. Upgrading the inverter would be my answer too. Good luck on presenting this to your customer.<div dir="auto">Not so fun times</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:12 PM Ray via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>That's about what to expect from the Psuedo Sine Wave that the
      SWs put out.  They shortened the list of problem appliances
      significantly compared to "mod sine", but its a stepped pyramid
      wave.  Later inverters (Outback, Magnum) were step waves too, but
      just more steps, which translates to less trouble.  </p>
    <p><img src="http://www.solarray.com/Images/ImagesTGuides/Stepped%20Wave.png"></p>
    <p>Trace SW waveform<br>
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    <p>I have cured the "washer not running on the SW" once, by adding a
      capacitor to the circuit.  I can't recommend it 100% from a safety
      stand point, but it worked for us. Some body else chime in on the
      possible dangers?  Cap blowing, fires, shorts?  Definitely needs
      to be in a metal enclosure.<br>
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    <p>I think its either get a different washer or get a different
      inverter. At 22+ years, its slowly reaching the time to retire
      those old SWs.  <br>
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    <pre cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
    <div>On 9/8/23 2:53 PM, Dave Angelini
      Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:<br>
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      <div id="m_-1516589451204696792m_3595724544720690261signature">I would do a load test on the inverter. It may
        have a damaged FET or two. They do not last forever! Good Luck<br>
        <pre> </pre>
        <pre><strong><span style="font-size:small">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
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text 209 813 0060</span></strong></pre>
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      <p id="m_-1516589451204696792m_3595724544720690261reply-intro">On 2023-09-08 12:30 pm, Darryl Thayer via
        RE-wrenches wrote:</p>
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          <div dir="auto">New washing machines are small loads 400 Watts
            about.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 8, 2023,
              2:27 PM Darryl Thayer <<a href="mailto:darylsolar1@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">darylsolar1@gmail.com</a>>
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              <div dir="auto">I once used a ferro-resonant transformer
                to clean up a sine wave.  You have to know the power.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 8, 2023,
                  1:59 PM Chris Daum via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>
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                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi folks:</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">I have a fellow
                            with a Trace SW5548, purchased from us in
                            2001.<span>  </span>It's been working<span> 
                            </span>great for him all this time, but the
                            dilemma is he's gotten a new Hotpoint
                            washing machine, and its electronics don't
                            like the old inverter.<span>  </span>Is
                            there some sort of power conditioner or
                            'line tamer' available that will work for
                            this appliance's operation?<span>  </span>Any
                            ideas would be greatly appreciated.<span>  </span>He's
                            rather loathe to replace his inverter if he
                            doesn't need to.<span>  </span></span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">Best,</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">Chris
                            Daum</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">Oasis
                            Montana Inc.</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">406-777-4309
                            or 4321</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt">406-777-4309
                            fax</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://www.oasismontana.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.oasismontana.com</a>
                          </span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></p>
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